Re: Kevin Rudd's Win: On a Swing and a Prayer

In article <47d86d7a$0$20462$afc38c87@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, 
rccroucher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes...

> Ken Smith wrote:
> > **Rowland Croucher** <rccroucher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> > 
> >> Green Lantern wrote:
> <>
> >>> I always thought the churches were full of hot air. They probably do
set 
> >>> their sails wherever the wind blows. This is normally in the
direction of 
> >>> collecting money. Adding a spinnacher for political expediency is
consistent 
> >>> with this aim.
> > 
> >> No... I believe the churches are getting a better handle on the 
> >> difference between charity and social justice...
> > 
> > Is the order in which an ancient Hebrew preacher put things
> > significant?
> > 
> > 1. Do justice.
> > 2. Show constant love.
> > 3. Walk humbly with God.
> 
> Yes, especially as Jesus confirms the same three 'kingdom values' in the

> same order - Matthew 23:23; cf. Luke 11:42
> 
> (But justice and love - the two key values - do not get a mention in any

> of the church's creeds, nor in conservative confessions of 
> faith/doctrinal statements. (Since the mid-1980s, they creep into more 
> progressive Statements of Faith...)

What some people see as social justice others see as arbitrary 
redistribution of wealth. This is also known by a simpler name: theft.


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DM
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