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Dual Citizen****p -- Loyal to Whom?

by "Hajj Jafar" <Hjafar@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 31, 2008 at 03:12 PM

Dual Citizen****p -- Loyal to Whom?

by Dan Eden

Someone wrote and asked me, "Why are there Israeli- but not
Mexican-American 
Dual Nationals?"

Well, here's my take on this. I'd also like your views and opinions.

Unless we are Native American Indians, all Americans have their origins in

some other country. Both of my parents were from England. They were proud
to 
be "British" but they were most proud of achieving their American 
citizen****p. Sure, we had pictures of the Queen and nick-nacks with the 
Union Jack on them. My mother even celebrated the traditional 4 o'clock
tea 
time and was good at making York****re Pudding. In the late 60's my older 
brother served in the US Army and did his tour in Viet Nam. When it came 
down to "allegiance," we were all patriotic Americans. Period.

The word "allegiance" means that we promise loyalty. It also carries with
it 
the expectation that this loyalty will be exclusive and unrestrained. In
the 
case of a declared war or real threat or conflict, for example, our 
allegiance to America should preclude any other interest, be it another 
country or political ideology.

When they took their oath to become American citizens, my parents had to 
pledge their "allegiance" exclusively to America and renounce their 
allegiance to "any and all foreign governments." That included Great 
Britain, one of our strongest allies.

Before Viewzone asked me to research the meaning of "dual citizen****p," I 
had never heard of the term. How could someone be a citizen of two
countries 
at the same time? But I was just ignorant. Dual nationalities and 
citizen****ps are quite common.

From my internet research, I learned that in 1997, a French Canadian with
a 
U.S. pass****t ran for mayor of Plattsburgh, N.Y. He argued that the 
in***bent spoke French too poorly to be running a city so close to Quebec.

He lost. Also in 1997, a retired top American official for the U.S. EPA 
(Environmental Protection Agency) ran for president of Lithuania. He was 
inaugurated in February to a burst of fireworks!

In 1996, Dominicans from New York not only could vote in the Dominican 
Republic's presidential elections for the first time, they could vote for
a 
fellow New Yorker. Multiple nationalities have become so commonplace that 
some analysts fear the trend is undermining the notion of nationhood, 
particularly in the place with the most diverse citizenry on Earth: the 
United States.

Debate over the issue intensified in the late 1990s, when Mexico joined
the 
growing list of poor nations that say it's OK for their nationals to be 
citizens of the countries to which they have migrated. Under the law that 
took effect in 1998 Mexicans abroad -- most of them in the United States
--  
will be able to retain Mexican citizen****p even if they seek U.S. 
citizen****p. And naturalized Americans of Mexican descent will be able to 
reclaim their original citizen****p. The Mexican government stopped short, 
for now, of giving expatriates the right to vote.

Security Issues

Since citizen****p carries with it a responsibility to be exclusively loyal

to one country, the whole concept of dual citizen****p and nationality
raises 
questions about which of the dual citizen****ps have priority. This is 
extremely im****tant when the two countries have opposing interests. It can

be a deadly problem when a dual citizen is in a high position within our 
American government.

Can one imagine a Japanese citizen serving in the Pentagon during WWII? Or

how about a citizen of the Soviet Union holding a cabinet position in the 
White House during the Cold War?

Today's conflicts are centered in the Middle East. America needs to
balance 
foreign policies towards oil producing Arab nations with our goal being 
peace and stability in the region. This places a burdon on our government
to 
be even-handed in our dealings with the Arab world and Israel. While the 
Iraq War was waged on lies about Weapons of Mass Destruction and revenge
for 
911, the real reason has emerged as a well designed global plan to improve

the power and leverage of Israel. Added to this policy is yet another 
potential blow to American interests and security -- the impending War
with 
Iran. This war will be waged for the security of Israel and will be paid
for 
by the blood of American soldiers and the hard-earned money of American 
citizens whose quality of life is inversely tied to the cost of petrolium.

Recently, in their much lauded paper, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign 
Policy, Harvard professor, Stephen Walt, and University of Chicago 
professor, John Mearsheimer, focused attention on the strong Israeli lobby

which has a powerful influence over American foreign policies (see BBC 
article). They detail the influence that this lobby has exerted, forming a

series of international policies which can be viewed as in direct
opposition 
to the interests and security of the American people. These acts and 
policies are more often than not carried out by US government appointees
who 
hold powerful positions and who are dual American-Israeli citizens. Since 
the policies they sup****t are often exclusively beneficial to Israel,
often 
to the detriment of America, it has been argued that their loyalties are 
misdirected.

A few classic examples can be cited here.

Jonathan Jay Pollard was an American-Israeli citizen who worked for the US

government. He is well known because he stole more secrets from the U.S. 
than has any other spy in American history. During his interrogation
Pollard 
said he felt compelled to put the "interests of my state" ahead of his
own. 
Although as a U.S. Navy counter-intelligence specialist he had a
top-secret 
security clearance, by "my state" he meant the state of Israel.

Literally tens of thousands of Americans holding U.S. pass****ts admit they

feel a primary allegiance to the state of Israel. In many instances, these

Americans vote in Israeli elections, wear Israeli uniforms and fight in 
Israeli wars. Many are actively engaged both in the confiscation of 
Palestinian lands and in the Israeli political system. Three examples come

to mind:

One is Rabbi Meir Kahane, who founded the militant Jewish Defense League
in 
the U.S. in the 1960s, then emigrated to Israel where, eventually, he was 
elected to the Knesset. Until he was shot and killed at one of his U.S. 
fund-raising rallies in 1990, the Brooklyn-born rabbi shuttled between Tel

Aviv and New York, where he recruited militant American Jews for his 
activities in Israel against Palestinians. He claimed to be a "dual
citizen" 
of America and Israel.

Another Jewish American, James Mahon from Alexandria, Virginia, re****tedly

was on a secret mission to kill PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat when he was
shot 
in 1980 by an unknown assailant. When he was shot, Mahon held an American 
M-16 in his hand and a U.S. pass****t in his pocket.

Then there was Alan Harry Goodman, an American Jew who left his home in 
Baltimore, Maryland, flew to Israel and served in the Israeli army. Then,
on 
April 11, 1982, armed with an Uzi submachine gun, he walked, alone, to 
Al-Aqsa, Jerusalem's most holy Islamic shrine, where he opened fire,
killing 
two Palestinians and wounding others. Both the U.S. and Israeli
governments 
played down the incident, as did the media.

Most recently, US Navy Petty Officer, Ariel J. Weinmann, while serving at
or 
near Bahrain, Mexico, and Austria, "with intent or reason to believe it 
would be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a 
foreign nation (Israel), [attempted] to communicate, deliver or transmit 
classified CONFIDENTIAL and SECRET information relating to the national 
defense, to a representative, officer, agent or employee of a foreign 
government." Weinmann was apprehended on March 26 after being listed as "a

deserter by his command," according to the US Navy. The information he 
gathered was supplied to Israel.

The examples of Kahane, Mahonm, Goodman and Weinmann raise the question of

when a U.S. citizen ceases to be, or should cease to be, a U.S. citizen. 
U.S. Law at one time clearly stated that an American citizen owed first 
allegiance to the United States. A U.S. citizen should not fight in a 
foreign army or hold high office in a foreign country without risking 
expatriation. What the heck happened?

The 1940 Nationality Act

Section 401 (e) of the 1940 Nationality Act provides that a U.S. citizen, 
whether by birth or naturalization, "shall lose his [U.S.] nationality 
by...voting in a political election in a foreign state."

This law was tested many times. In 1958, for instance, an American citizen

named Perez voted in a Mexican election. The case went to the Supreme
Court, 
where the majority opinion held that Perez must lose his American 
nationality. The court said Congress could provide for expatriation as a 
reasonable way of preventing embarrassment to the United States in its 
foreign relations.

But then something very odd happened.

In 1967 an American Jew, Beys Afroyim received an exemption that set a 
precedent exclusively for American Jews. Afroyim, born in Poland in 1895, 
emigrated to America in 1912, and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in
1926. 
In 1950, aged 55, he emigrated to Israel and became an Israeli citizen. In

1951 Afroyim voted in an Israeli Knesset election and in five political 
elections that followed. So, by all standards he lost his American 
citizen****p -- right? Wrong.

After living in Israel for a decade, Afroyim wished to return to New York.

In 1960, he asked the U.S. Consulate in Haifa for an American pass****t.
The 
Department of State refused the application, invoking section 401 (e) of
the 
Nationality Act -- the same ruling that had stripped the American citizen 
named Perez of his U.S. citizen****p.

Attorneys acting for Afroyim took his case to a Wa****ngton, DC District 
Court, which upheld the law. Then his attorneys appealed to the Court of 
Appeals. This court also upheld the law. The attorneys for Afroyim then 
moved the case on to the Supreme Court. Here, with Supreme Court Justice
Abe 
Fortas, Lyndon Johnson's former attorney and one of the most powerful
Jewish 
Americans, casting the swing vote, the court voted five to four in favor
of 
Afroyim. The court held that the U.S. government had no right to "rob" 
Afroyim of his American citizen****p!

The court, reversing its previous judgment as regards the Mexican
American, 
ruled that Afroyim had not shown "intent" to lose citizen****p by voting in

Israeli elections. Huh?

While Wa****ngton claims it has a "good neighbor" policy with Mexico, the 
U.S. does not permit Mexicans to hold dual nationality. The US makes them 
become either U.S. or Mexican -- you can't be both. But the U.S., in its 
special relation****p with Israel, has become very sympathetic to allowing 
Israeli-Americans to retain two nationalities and allowing U.S. citizens
not 
only to hold public office in Israel, but to hold US government positions
as 
well! No other country holds this special exception to our laws of 
citizen****p.

So, you might ask, are there any other dual Israel-American citizens who 
hold US government positions that could compromise American security? Yes.

Consider the following list that I obtained on the web:



Michael Mukasey
Recently appointed as US Attorney General. Mukasey also was the judge in
the 
litigation between developer Larry Silverstein and several insurance 
companies arising from the destruction of the World Trade Center.

Michael Chertoff
Former Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, at the
Justice 
Department; now head of Homeland Security.

Richard Perle
One of Bush's foreign policy advisors, he is the chairman of the
Pentagon's 
Defense Policy Board. A very likely Israeli government agent, Perle was 
expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the 
National Security Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified 
(National Security) do***ents to the Israeli Embassy. He later worked for 
the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam. Perle came from one the above mentioned 
pro-Israel thinktanks, the AEI. Perle is one of the leading pro-Israeli 
fanatics leading this Iraq war mongering within the administration and now

in the media.

Paul Wolfowitz
Former Deputy Defense Secretary, and member of Perle's Defense Policy
Board, 
in the Pentagon. Wolfowitz is a close associate of Perle, and re****tedly
has 
close ties to the Israeli military. His sister lives in Israel. Wolfowitz 
came from the above mentioned Jewish thinktank, JINSA. Wolfowitz was the 
number two leader within the administration behind this Iraq war
mongering. 
He later was appointed head of the World Bank but resigned under pressure 
from World Bank members over a scandal involving his misuse of power.



Douglas Feith
Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. He is a
close 
associate of Perle and served as his Special Counsel. Like Perle and the 
others, Feith is a pro-Israel extremist, who has advocated anti-Arab 
policies in the past. He is closely associated with the extremist group,
the 
Zionist Organization of America, which even attacks Jews that don't agree 
with its extremist views. Feith frequently speaks at ZOA conferences.
Feith 
runs a small law firm, Feith and Zell, which only has one International 
office, in Israel. The majority of their legal work is representing
Israeli 
interests. His firm's own website stated, prior to his appointment, that 
Feith "represents Israeli Armaments Manufacturer." Feith basically 
represents the Israeli War Machine. Feith also came from the Jewish 
thinktank JINSA. Feith, like Perle and Wolfowitz, are campaigning hard for

this Israeli proxy war against Iraq.

Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
The former Defense Intelligence Agency analyst with expertise in Iranian 
policy issues who worked in the office of Undersecretary of Defense for 
Policy Douglas Feith and re****ted directly to Feith's deputy, William
Luti, 
was sentenced January 20, 2006, "to more than 12 years in prison for
giving 
classified information to an Israeli diplomat" and members of the
pro-Israel 
lobbying group American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).

Franklin will "remain free while the government continues with the wider 
case" and his "prison time could be sharply reduced in return for his help

in prosecuting" former AIPAC members Steven J. Rosen and Keith Weissman, 
[who] are scheduled to go on trial in April [2006]. Franklin admitted that

he met periodically with Rosen and Weissman between 2002 and 2004 and 
discussed classified information, including information about potential 
attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq. Rosen and Weissman would later share what 
they learned with re****ters and Israeli officials." (source: 
sourcewatch.com).

Edward Luttwak
Member of the National Security Study Group of the Department of Defence
at 
the Pentagon. Luttwak is re****tedly an Israeli citizen and has taught in 
Israel. He frequently writes for Israeli and pro-Israeli newspapers and 
journals. Luttwak is an Israeli extremist whose main theme in many of his 
articles is the necessity of the U.S. waging war against Iraq and Iran.

Henry Kissinger
One of many Pentagon Advisors, Kissinger sits on the Pentagon's Defense 
Policy Board under Perle. For detailed information about Kissinger's evil 
past, read Seymour Hersch's book (Price of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon 
White House). Kissinger likely had a part in the Watergate crimes,
Southeast 
Asia mass murders (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos), Installing Chilean mass 
murdering dictator Pinochet, Operation Condor's mass killings in South 
America, and more recently served as Serbia's Ex-Dictator Slobodan 
Milosevic's Advisor. He consistently advocated going to war against Iraq. 
Kissinger is the Ariel Sharon of the U.S. Unfortunately, President Bush 
nominated Kissinger as chairman of the September 11 investigating 
commission. It's like picking a bank robber to investigate a fraud
scandal. 
He later declined this job under enormous protests.

Dov Zakheim
Dov Zakheim is an ordained rabbi and re****tedly holds Israeli citizen****p.

Zakheim attended Jew's College in London and became an ordained Orthodox 
Jewish Rabbi in 1973. He was adjunct professor at New York's Jewish
Ye****va 
University. Zakheim is close to the Israeli lobby.

Dov Zakheim is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and in
2000 
a co-author of the Project for the New American Century's position paper, 
Rebuilding America's Defenses, advocating the necessity for a 
Pearl-Harbor-like incident to mobilize the country into war with its 
enemies, mostly Middle Eastern Muslim nations.

He was appointed by Bush as Pentagon Comptroller from May 4, 2001 to March

10, 2004. At that time he was unable to explain the disappearance of $1 
trillion dollars. Actually, nearly three years earlier, Donald Rumsfeld 
announced on September 10, 2001 that an audit discovered $2.3 trillion was

also missing from the Pentagon books. That story, as mentioned, was buried

under 9-11's rubble. The two sums disappeared on Zakheim's watch. We can 
only guess where that cash went.

Despite these suspicions, on May 6, 2004, Zakheim took a lucrative
position 
at Booz Allen Hamilton, one of the most prestigious strategy consulting 
firms in the world. One of its clients then was Blessed Relief, a charity 
said to be a front for Osama bin Laden. Booz, Allen & Hamilton then also 
worked closely with DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, 
which is the research arm of the Department of Defense.

Judicial Inc's bio of Dov tells us Zakheim is a dual Israeli/American 
citizen and has been tracking the halls of US government for 25 years, 
casting defense policy and influence on Presidents Reagan, Clinton, Bush
Sr. 
and Bush Jr. Judicial Inc points out that most of Israel's armaments were 
gotten thanks to him. Squads of US F-16 and F-15 were classified military 
surplus and sold to Israel at a fraction of their value.



Kenneth Adelman
One of many Pentagon Advisors, Adelman also sits on the Pentagon's Defense

Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor, who

sup****ted going to war against Iraq. Adelman frequently is a guest on Fox 
News, and often expresses extremist and often ridiculus anti-Arab and 
anti-Muslim views. Through his racism or ignorance, he actually called
Arabs 
"anti-Semitic" on Fox News (11/28/2001), when he could have looked it up
in 
the dictionary to find out that Arabs by definition are Semites.

I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby
Vice President Dick Cheney's ex-Chief of Staff. As chief pro-Israel Jewish

advisor to Cheney, it helps explains why Cheney is so gun-ho to invade
Iran. 
Libby is longtime associate of Wolfowitz. Libby was also a lawyer for 
convicted felon and Israeli spy Marc Rich, whom Clinton pardoned, in his 
last days as president. Libby was recently found guilty of lying to
Federal 
investigators in the Valerie Plame affair, in which Plame, a covert CIA 
agent, was exposed for political revenge by the Bush administration 
following her husband's revelations about the lies leading to the Iraq
War.

Robert Satloff
U.S. National Security Council Advisor, Satloff was the executive director

of the Israeli lobby's "think tank," Wa****ngton Institute for Near East 
Policy. Many of the Israeli lobby's "experts" come from this front group, 
like Martin Indyk.

Elliott Abrams
National Security Council Advisor. He previously worked at
Wa****ngton-based 
"Think Tank" Ethics and Public Policy Center. During the Reagan 
Adminstration, Abrams was the Assistant Secretary of State, handling, for 
the most part, Latin American affairs. He played an im****tant role in the 
Iran-Contra Scandal, which involved illegally selling U.S. weapons to Iran

to fight Iraq, and illegally funding the contra rebels fighting to
overthrow 
Nicaragua's Sandinista government. He also actively deceived three 
congressional committees about his involvement and thereby faced felony 
charges based on his testimony. Abrams pled guilty in 1991 to two 
misdemeanors and was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of 
community service. A year later, former President Bush (Senior) granted 
Abrams a full pardon. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in
the 
Reagan Administration's State Department.

Marc Grossman
Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. He was Director General of

the Foreign Service and Director of Human Resources at the Department of 
State. Grossman is one of many of the pro-Israel Jewish officials from the

Clinton Administration that Bush has promoted to higher posts.

Richard Haass
Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at
large. 
He is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior Fellow at the

Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He was one of the more hawkish 
pro-Israel Jews in the first Bush (Sr) Administration who sat on the 
National Security Council, and who consistently advocated going to war 
against Iraq. Haass is also a member of the Defense Department's National 
Security Study Group, at the Pentagon.

Robert Zoellick
U.S. Trade Representative, a cabinet-level position. He is also one of the

more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated

invading Iraq and occupying a ****tion of the country in order to set up a 
Vichy-style puppet government. He consistently advocates going to war 
against Iran.

Ari Fleischer
Ex- White House Spokesman for the Bush (Jr) Administration. Prominent in
the 
Jewish community, some re****ts state that he holds Israeli citizen****p. 
Fleischer is closely connected to the extremist Jewish group called the 
Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics, who follow the Qabala, and hold very extremist 
and insulting views of non-Jews. Fleischer was the co-president of
Chabad's 
Capitol Jewish Forum. He received the Young Leader****p Award from the 
American Friends of Lubavitch in October, 2001.

James Schlesinger
One of many Pentagon Advisors, Schlesinger also sits on the Pentagon's 
Defense Policy Board under Perle and is another extremist pro-Israel 
advisor, who sup****ted going to war against Iraq. Schlesinger is also a 
commissioner of the Defense Department's National Security Study Group, at

the Pentagon.

David Frum
White House speechwriter behind the "Axis of Evil" label. He lumped
together 
all the lies and accusations against Iraq for Bush to justify the war.

Joshua Bolten
White House Deputy Chief of Staff, Bolten was previously a banker, former 
legislative aide, and prominent in the Jewish community.

John Bolton
Former UN Representative and Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control and

International Security. Bolton is also a Senior Advisor to President Bush.

Prior to this position, Bolton was Senior Vice President of the above 
mentioned pro-Israel thinktank, AEI. He recently (October 2002) accused 
Syria of having a nuclear program, so that they can attack Syria after
Iraq. 
He must have forgotten that Israel has 400 nuclear warheads, some of which

are thermonuclear weapons (according to a recent U.S. Air Force re****t).

David Wurmser
Special Assistant to John Bolton (above), the under-secretary for arms 
control and international security. Wurmser also worked at the AEI with 
Perle and Bolton. His wife, Meyrav Wurmser, along with Colonel Yigal
Carmon, 
formerly of Israeli military intelligence, co-founded the Middle East
Media 
Research Institute (Memri),a Wa****ngton-based Israeli outfit which 
distributes articles translated from Arabic newspapers ****traying Arabs in
a 
bad light.

Eliot Cohen
Member of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle and is another 
extremist pro-Israel advisor. Like Adelman, he often expresses extremist
and 
often ridiculus anti-Arab and anti-Muslim views. More recently, he wrote
an 
opinion article in the Wall Street Journal openly admitting his rascist 
hatred of Islam claiming that Islam should be the enemy, not terrorism.

Mel Sembler
President of the Ex****t-Im****t Bank of the United States. A Prominent
Jewish 
Republican and Former National Finance Chairman of the Republican National

Committee. The Ex****t-Im****t Bank facilitates trade relation****ps between 
U.S. businesses and foreign countries, specifically those with financial 
problems.

Steve Goldsmith
Senior Advisor to the President, and Bush's Jewish domestic policy
advisor. 
He also served as liaison in the White House Office of Faith-Based and 
Community Initiatives (White House OFBCI) within the Executive Office of
the 
President. He was the former mayor of Indianapolis. He is also friends
with 
Israeli Jerusalem Mayor Ehud Olmert and often visits Israel to coach
mayors 
on privatization initiatives.

Adam Goldman
White House's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community.

Joseph Gildenhorn
Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community. He was the DC 
finance chairman for the Bush campaign, as well as campaign coordinator,
and 
former ambassador to Switzerland.

Christopher Gersten
Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and 
Families at HHS. Gersten was the former Executive Director of the
Republican 
Jewish Coalition, Husband of Labor Secretary.

Mark Weinberger
Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs.

Samuel Bodman
Deputy Secretary of Commerce. He was the Chairman and CEO of Cabot 
Cor****ation in Boston, Massachusetts.

Bonnie Cohen
Under Secretary of State for Management.

Ruth Davis
Director of Foreign Service Institute, who re****ts to the Office of Under 
Secretary for Management. This Office is responsible for training all 
Department of State staff (including ambassadors).

Daniel Kurtzer
Ambassador to Israel.

Cliff Sobel
Ambassador to the Netherlands.

Stuart Bernstein
Ambassador to Denmark.

Nancy Brinker
Ambassador to Hungary

Frank Lavin
Ambassador to Singa****e.

Ron Weiser
Ambassador to Slovakia.

Mel Sembler
Ambassador to Italy.

Martin Silverstein
Ambassador to Uruguay.

Lincoln Bloomfield
Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs.

Jay Lefkowitz
Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy 
Council.

Ken Melman
White House Political Director.

Brad Blakeman
White House Director of Scheduling.

I don't know about you, but dual citizen****p is fine with me for an
ordinary 
citizen. But if you hold an official position that demands that you put 
American interests above all else -- if you should look transparent and
fair 
to the rest of the world regarding your formation of Middle East foreign 
policies, then this is a dangerous trend. Even if there were no
pro-Israeli 
agenda, the fact that decision makers have a bias or an allegiance to one
of 
the parties involved in the current conflict should have raised red flags 
long before now.


If you think we're being unfair here, ask yourself: How you would react to

the Head of Homeland Security if he or she were a dual national with 
citizen****p in Iran, Lebanon or Saudi Arabia? Ask yourself why you don't 
feel the same about Israeli dual citizen****p. Then you will understand how

powerful the Israeli lobby has been in "adjusting" your acceptance of
their 
special status.

Hey, I could be way off on this. Let's hear from you.

UPDATE: December 4, 2007

Newsweek's Michael Isikoff re****ts that Iraq war architect Paul Wolfowitz 
has been rewarded with a new position in the Bush administration which
will 
allow him to oversee classified intelligence and inform policies on WMD 
issues.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has offered Wolfowitz, a prime
architect 
of the Iraq War, a position as chairman of the International Security 
Advisory Board, a prestigious State Department panel, according to two 
department sources who declined to be identified discussing personnel 
matters. The 18-member panel, which has access to highly classified 
intelligence, advises Rice on disarmament, nuclear proliferation, WMD
issues 
and other matters. "We think he is well suited and will do an excellent 
job," said one senior official.

Comments:

This was a real eye-opener. I began to have my suspicions when Mukasey's 
confirmation was approved by swing votes from Schumer and Feingold,
despite 
his objectionable views on torture, which Democrats allegedly oppose. You 
know, I read that Jews make up only 2% of the American population. Why
don't 
we see more Blacks (12.8%), Irish (12%), Italians (8%), Asians (4.3%), 
Mexicans (14.4%) or even Arabs (3.8%) in government positions? Why always 
from the same group?

H.J. San Diego

I fully sup****t the State of Israel and their right to exist. I do,
however, 
see problems when the US is transparently pro-Israel with regards to its 
policies and UN vetoes. This created distrust in the rest of the world and

complicates the progress for peace. In the end, it is self-destructive.

M.B.

The State of Israel grants citizen****p to all Jews who have maternal
Jewish 
heritage. It's not only the politicians you have cited in your article. 
Having dual citizensip or a dual nationality does not automatically mean 
that one will favor Israel over America. It is wrong to suggest that.

D. DeG.

Hey "D. DeG"--
I also sup****t Israel but it is not wrong to suggest it when the evidence 
sup****ts it. Check the record of sanctions issues by the United Nations 
against Israel which are ALWAYS vetoed by America. Check the amount of 
foreign aid that goes to Israel every year against the amounts going to 
other countries. Check the immigration visas granted to Israel or the
number 
of Jews in our prison system vs. other races... Almost any parameter you 
check will open your eyes to something called "Sayanims." Google it. Yes, 
there's problem. And it needs to be discussed.

BryanAnt

Check this out! The so-called "Americal Al Qaeda," Azzam the American, who

is featured on many al Qaeda tapes and videos is an American-Israeli Jew.

Concerned

What a punch to the gut. How many war mongers are on that list? How many 
spies? How many on that list are now clamoring for the U.S. to fight
another 
war for Israel, this time against Iran.

Like Mel Sembler and Brad Blakeman, who helped finance the Bush 2000
Florida 
recount and is backing the pro-war, let's bomb ALL of Israel's
"existential" 
enemies, Freedom's Watch.

Maybe we should change the "Pledge of Allegiance" to reflect this New
World 
of Order in D.C.

I pledge allegiance to the Star of David of the Apartheid State of Israel,

and to the Racism for which it stands, one World, under our Talmud, with 
liberty and justice only for the Jews.

Greg Bacon>
Ava, MO

You forgot ambassador Feltman(Jeffrey)since 3 years head of mission in 
Lebanon,dual citisen****p ,very close to Sharon and now Olmert Bonzai.

Brunella H

To add to the nightmare: U.S. Nuclear Weapons Being "Guarded" by Israel.

Jim Hartley

A note about dual citizen****p I think you should know. Sovereign nations 
have the authority to issue citizen****p to whomever they wish and
stipulate 
whatever conditions they want. No country can prevent you from holding 
citizen****p of another country because it is not in their power. If you 
apply for naturalization within the United States, while technically you
are 
supposed to swear allegiance, not all countries will recognize your 
repudiation. For example, as a Canadian citizen, by being naturalized in
the 
US, I am still a citizen of both countries. If my grandmother were German,
I 
would be entitled to German citizen****p regardless of whether I have been 
there or not. Ireland is another country where you can never repudiate
your 
citizen****p.

Now on to Israel. The modern state of Israel was conceived as a Jewish 
homeland, and, naturally, grant the right of return to anyone who is
Jewish. 
The fact that as a Jew, they are entitled to citizen****p shouldn't be 
construed as a threat to national security. In most cases people opt to
take 
up dual citizen****p for ease of travel and work. As a citizen of Israel
you 
are entitled to be there, whether just visiting relatives or whatever.
That 
a number of government officials also hold Israeli citizen****p reflects an

effective strategy to keep their own close. But there is nothing stopping 
other countries, say Great Britain, from promoting citizen****p among the 
descendants of the English.

The simple fact is, there is nothing the United States can do to prevent 
other countries offering citizen****p to whomever they wish.

Nels Erickson

Um... As an American citizen... I'm completely surprised by your anti- 
semitism.

Truck Mac

The above dual citizen****p group looks like a rogues gallery of key neocon

warmongers who pushed the US into numerous wars in my lifetime. Many of
them 
also appeared on Sebil Edmonds web page when she recently went public with

high crimes she found when working as an FBI translator.

Why does America stand for such duplicity? The Bush/Cheney/neocon wars
alone 
have cost each and every faimily in the US over $20,000 and counting, just

in direct dollar costs. And it is beyond counting the damaged done to our 
future. Lets not wait til they get their war on Iran!

Impeach Now!

Tim

I am a US-Israeli dual citizen, and I live in Israel. Most of my family is

in the US, and I grew up in the US. Just because someone is a dual
citizen, 
doesn't mean that they are acting perniciously or have a conflict of 
interest. What you attribute to some sort of conspiracy is in reality most

of the time just sincere convictions people have. Congress and many 
Americans in general sup****t Israel because in their (and my) opinion it
is 
the right thing to do. They also sincerely believe that is in the US 
interest to do so as well. There are strong arguments to be made for that 
position, whether you agree with it or not. If you look at some of the 
history of it, you will see that it is not a new thing to come up with 
Jewish conspiracy theories. There were pograms in Europe over hundreds of 
years based on popular paranoia of such things. In reality, the 
"conspiracies"were often enough cooked up by other parties who stood to 
benefit by deflecting people's paranoia and suspicion onto the Jews. The 
most famous do***ented example of this is the "Protocols of the Elders of 
Zion", which was forged by the government in Czarist Russia, but has been 
used as justification for the murders of countless innocent Jews, and is 
still popular in many parts of the world, particularly the Arab Middle
East, 
to this day. This is not even to mention the Nazi regime and the
Holocaust.

There are many Jews who have some connection to Israel who also are 
"right-wing" when it comes to American foreign policy, at least in the 
Middle East. There are actually just as many American Jews who are very 
left-leaning in the same area though. Those who are right wing
("neo-cons") 
are often accused as in your article of immorally acting based on mixed 
loyalty- but this is again not a fair accusation unless you can
substantiate 
that they are actually doing something concrete against US interest. It is

more likely that based on their experience and knowledge of the middle
east 
(Israel has been on the front line against terrorism and Arab rejectionism

of the West for more than half a century) they have come to the
conclusions 
they have. If they do in fact have a connection to Israel, all the more so

if they are knowledgable about Israel's military and strategic position
and 
history in the ME, they happen to be a great deal more informed about the 
region than your average person.

It's not fair to cast aspersion on people who are likely trying to fulfill

the duties of their positions honestly and sincerely just because you 
disagree with their politics, which is what this boils down to. There are 
isolated instances (such as Pollard, etc) where people did in fact act 
unethically relative to their duties to the US, but that is not the case
in 
most of the people mentioned in your article. And anyway, you will find
such 
examples for any nationality or creed. Despite the "hype" to the contrary,

Jews are still one of the smallest minorities in the world, and it's scary

when people accuse us of conspiracies and the like, especially given our 
collective experience over the course of history.

Yosef D.

Very, very good article. Well-researched, and brings it all together.

A quick challenge for those that say things like "I fully sup****t the
State 
of Israel and their right to exist." What precisely is the right to the 
land? Their occupation of Palestine is a result of the Balfour
Declaration, 
which was (among other things) an agreement between Zionist Jews and
England 
to bring the US into the war in exchange for the creation of a "uniquely 
Jewish state." Since today's Askenazi Jews are demonstrably not semite (as

any Jewish Dictionary will confirm, along with their own scholar****p) any 
pretense of a "biblical right" to the land is fundamentally flawed.
Fueling 
the "return to their homeland" craze is mainstream Christianity, which 
largely holds to an eschatology that erroneously declares prophetic 
significance to the creation of Israel by UN decree in 1948.

Brad Stone

An eye opener that should be more in the mainstream media. Our country is 
being lead by idiots like GW that think God has ordained them to protect 
Israel due to a fringe interpretation of the Old Testament, and radical 
Jewish dual citizens rush in to fill in the ranks of their officers! I
think 
I'll move to China!

MD11DRIVER

The word 'anti-semite'does not mean against semites,it really means
against 
Jews who are not semites at all.Read the 'Thirteenth Tribe',by Arthur 
Koestler. Check out the term in a high quality dictionary. BILL Caucasians

are also classified as a semitic people although the evidence is
obfuscated 
for very obvious reasons.

Bill Van Foeken

I just read (a bit late, I know) your article on dual citizen****p and 
elected, as well as other high-level government official. I'm glad to let 
you know that on the most part, I agree with the points you raise.

I read in the article about "...in 1997, a retired top American official
for 
the U.S. EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) ran for president of 
Lithuania. He was inaugurated in February to a burst of fireworks!". That 
official was/is Valdas Adamkus. While I understand you used him as an 
example to make a point, I feel his situation is much different than the 
other examples you raise.

Valdas Adamkus was actually born in Lithuania, and immigrated to the
United 
States. Before that, he fought the soviets in Lithuania before eventually 
finding his home in the US. From the re-establishment of the Republic of 
Lithuania, the Lithuanian government, and the people of Lithuania wanted
to 
allow ALL persons of Lithuanian descent (ie citizens of the first republic

of Lithuania and their families) to return to their homeland as things had

changed, and the constitution preserved their Lithuanian citizen****p.
Thus, 
Adamkus was a Lithuanian citizen while he worked at the EPA, but also a 
"refugee" of the soviet union, in some sense.

While Adamkus ran for President of Lithuania, he still held US
citizen****p. 
At this time Lithuania had a much different version of dual citizen****p
than 
it does presently. He formally renounced his citizen****p before US
consular 
officials before he was allowed to be President.

Now, as I believe it, there is a presidential directive (from Carter, I 
believe) allowing US citizens to become citizens of another country,
without 
losing their US citizen****p. This is because the US government believes
that 
no one would really want to give up their citizen****p, and that sometimes 
people are pressured to do so. The directive rules that one must renounce 
their citizen****p through a special process in front of a US official.
There 
is precedent allowing dual citizen****p of the US. Of course, this could 
change at any time, if some "decider" decides it so.

Renunciation of US citizen****p is not something someone can easily do, and

is impossible to do inside the US.

Thanks for the article,
Mike Carey

I guess I should have been thrown out of this country a long time ago, as
I 
have never felt any national pride as a result of citizen****p by birth. I 
give credit to the immigrant in swearing allegiance to his new-found 
country, no matter how misdirected his reasons for emigrating might be. I 
don't believe that the gifts of this nation would have been withheld from
me 
in any other country I might have chosen to live in, granting those gifts 
were available. The nation-state has never been anything but an impediment

to world peace and an equal distribution of wealth and will continue to 
prevent the world's citizens from achieving harmony in the future. In
michiu 
kaaku's imaginary journey through the universe, he points out numbers of 
former planets, now turned to lifeless cinders and claims them to be
planets 
that failed to achieve world government. How I feel about dual citizen****p

doesn't seem to be the case here, so much as how I feel about American 
citizens becoming political operatives of a foreign country.

This can only end in political advantage moving in one direction and is a 
failure to the rest of the population. We must, for every obvious reason 
become citizens of the world or the whole thing is doomed to fail.

kitchenrat
 




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Dual Citizenship -- Loyal to Whom?
"Hajj Jafar" &l  2008-03-31 15:12:12 
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jgarbuz <jgarbuz@[EMAI  2008-03-31 08:41:11 
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"Hajj Jafar" &l  2008-03-31 16:29:49 
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"L Alpert" <  2008-03-31 19:37:28 
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jgarbuz <jgarbuz@[EMAI  2008-03-31 10:31:39 
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NefeshBarYohai <tachna  2008-03-31 19:00:17 
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HHW <coaster132000@[EM  2008-04-04 11:10:28 
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jgarbuz <jgarbuz@[EMAI  2008-04-04 13:15:23 
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NefeshBarYohai <tachna  2008-03-31 10:03:47 
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"Hajj Jafar" &l  2008-03-31 19:30:39 
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jgarbuz <jgarbuz@[EMAI  2008-03-31 20:48:43 
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"Hajj Jafar" &l  2008-04-01 04:02:14 
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jgarbuz <jgarbuz@[EMAI  2008-04-01 15:41:15 
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