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Re: Mohammed was a glorified *village idiot*

by "kangarooistan" <peramangk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 27, 2008 at 09:40 AM

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moslem cartoon character mohammad was a child molesting goat ****er and 
nikomak


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Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!
"Mohammed Burns In Hell" <wiping_my_ass_on_the_qur@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message

news:cPqdnTk6GMBayo_VnZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| *Mohammad belongs more to the field of psychiatry than to the religious
| world. The neuropathological bases of his hallucinations are amazingly 
easy
| to identify...His explicit symptomatology, his own description of
physical
| sensations while in trance leaves very little, if nothing to
speculation.
| Mohammad's paranoia is scripturally well attested and a diagnostically
| articulate fact.*
| ___________________________________________________________
|
| Mohammad's Mental Health
|
| By: Frederic-John Decat.
|
| We know that prophets are not ''normal'' person, that they are ''off the
| track'' and that their acute personal relation with God transform them 
into
| somehow psychic case. Among them some became notorious conquerors:
Moses,
| Joshua, Genghis Khan or even Joan of Arc but none of them transmitted an
| everlasting message of war (Jihad) like the Prophet of Islam: Mohammad.
So
| much that our world is still in the process of endless islamisation. Few
| weeks passed by without violence perpetrated by Muslims around the
world. 
Is
| it in Indonesia, in Sudan, in Bali, Iraq; the attack on the World Trade
| Center, both the Madrid or London trains, the riots in France, crowded
| manifestations worldwide for the fatwa asking the live of Salman Rushdie

and
| all those implicated in the publi****ng of his ''Satanic Verses'', up to 
the
| killing of Theo Van Gogh.
|
| Something is obviously wrong with Islam and we must turn to the mental
| health of its founder, Mohammad. It's about time to ask ourselves: was
| Mohammad a sane person, even within the special sphere of prophethood? 
Let's
| look at some evidence that Mohammad was insane, beginning with the
account
| we have from Ibn Ishaq/Hisham.
|
| It's related in his ''Sirāt Rasūl Allāh'' (translated by Alfred
Guillaume)
| that, first, Mohammad was himself convinced being ''possessed by evils''

and
| that, accordingly, not to become the ''village's idiot'', he tried to 
killed
| himself, by throwing his body down a mountain (p.106/153). It is then
said
| that Gibril came to his rescue but, still, Mohammad doubt and the storey
| could have ended there.
|
| The vision repeated itself, leaving Mohammad in an inner struggle about 
his
| own sanity. It is re****ted (idem) that he stood confused, in the middle
of
| nowhere, until Khadija's messengers (his wealthy wife) found him on the 
high
| ground above Mecca , undecided about his own sanity.
|
| It is indeed Khadija who first sup****ted and soothed Mohammad in the 
crucial
| phase when he himself entertained the deepest doubt about his own
sanity. 
''
| Woe is me poet or possessed'' asked the shaking husband. That's when she
| brought him to her Christian cousin, Waraqa b. Naufal, who confirmed 
eagerly
| that her relative was indeed invested with the genuine mantle of Godly
| prophethood. What was her authority on the matter?
|
| Looks like this testimony wasn't enough and Khadija had to convince him
| furthermore by a test to ''verify'' if the entity appearing to her
husband
| was indeed an angel or an evil. She asked to meet her while this entity 
was
| appearing to the Prophet. When it came to be, she engaged into ***ual
| preliminary, asking at different stages if the entity was still there.
It
| happened that in the process, the entity left when the arousing got 
warmer.
| Khadija then said to him: ''O son of my uncle, rejoice and be of good 
heart,
| by God he is an angel and not a Satan.'' (106/153; 107/154; 111/155).
Her
| deduction was that an evil wouldn't have leave while the arousing was
| indulging furthermore.
|
| Here, we can clearly see that Mohammad's mission was never, ever, 
confirmed
| by some godly signs with supernatural proofs, but by merely two women,
one 
a
| Christian cousin and the other one being his wife, surely not interested

in
| the suicide of his husband, with all the guiltiness implicated, not to
| mention a Mohammad possessed by evils, like some ''village's idiot.'' So

far
| it's easy to see that Allah never send a clear and divine sign to 
Mohammad,
| neither did Gibril answered by anything comparable to Gideon's asking in
| Jud.6.36-40, or the Burning Bush for Moses, the column of fire, the ten
| plagues; nothing but the testimony of two earthly women.
|
| While his wife Khadija was still alive, the delusion of the Prophet
seemed
| under control and, as a hermit dwelling in a cavern, receiving messages,
| nothing yet could make us believe that Mohammad was verily insane. In
the
| language of psychiatry his condition was stable, meaning he still could 
act
| almost like any normal person. The things though worsen a lot, regarding
| both Mohammad's wealth and mental health, right after Khadija died in
619;
| about the same time died his protecting uncle, Abu Talib. Only in one
more
| occasion, that of the ''Satanic Verses'', would the Prophet doubt about 
his
| divinely mission. The abrogation of this compromise was said to rectify
a 
''
| Satanic'' revelation, showing at least that the Prophet couldn't
| differentiate them by himself. (165/239; 166/239; 191/278; Qu.109; 
22.51-52;
| 53.19-23).
|
| Clearly, the Meccans thought that Muhammad suffered from some mental 
illness
| or ghost-possession. They call him a ''web of dreams'', a ''fanciful 
poet'',
| ''enchanted'', like in Qu.21.5; 36.69 or 52.30).Then, the Prophet
indulged
| on some Logical Fallacy as he brings some example of Biblical prophets
| likewise accused (Qu.51.52; 23.25; 26.26-27; 51.39). Of course, none of
| these allegations are found in the Bible. The one exception is Hos.9.7 
that,
| with his small biblical knowledge, Mohammad ignored.
|
|
|
| Dr. HERMAN SOMERS' DIAGNOSIS.
|
| This Flemish psychologist has given us the first technical diagnosis of
| Mohammed's behaviour, in his Dutch book ''Een Andere Mohammed'' (A 
Different
| Mohammad), published in 1993 by Hadewych, Antwerp . Dr. Koenraad Elst
| provides a general outline of it on his site.
|
| First, the many and detailed accounts on the life of the Prophet allowed

the
| Flemish psychologist to establish a well do***ented basic for his 
diagnosis.
| Since, said he, these accounts are not very favourable to Muhammad, not 
much
| hagiography distorted them and, that joined with our modern psyche
| knowledge, ascertain a fair evaluation of the mental health about 
Mohammad.
| What we find out is that the facts passed to us by the tradition 
correspond
| with the symptoms and syndromes known to psychiatry.
|
| According to Dr. Somers, Mohammed was a classic case of paranoia, which
is
| essentially characterized by a delusion about oneself nourished by
| recurring, pervasive hallucinations. These may be auditory, like hearing
| voices, or purely mental fabrications. The delusion typically puts the
| affected person in the center of events: either the target of ubiquitous
| conspiracy or as the privileged witness of a cosmic event, like a divine
| mission or the imminence of the world ending. The Final Judgment is one
of
| the main recurring themes found in the Quran.
|
| Mohammad's central delusion was that he had been selected for a unique
| mission of cosmic dimension. This delusion forms the core of the creed
| professed by all Muslims: ''There is no God but Allah and Mohammad is
it's
| only Prophet.'' This uncompromising creed differs from other monotheisms

as
| it implies the belief that the Quran is from divine origin. To obey the
| precepts of Islam are thus impossible to disavow from any believers. Sad

to
| realize that these one billion followers are bowing to a paranoiac 
delusion
| with sensorial hallucinations...
|
| Mohammad belongs more to the field of psychiatry than to the religious
| world. The neuropathological bases of his hallucinations are amazingly 
easy
| to identify. His acute megalomania might come from his shattered 
childhood,
| in an overcompensating phenomena but this Freudian view cannot fully 
explain
| the infrastructure of his delusions. His explicit symptomatology, his
own
| description of physical sensations while in trance leaves very little,
if
| nothing to speculation. Mohammad's paranoia is scripturally well
attested
| and a diagnostically articulate fact.
|
| The ultimate core of Islam stands or falls with Mohammad's prophethood.
If
| the oneness of God can be conditionally accepted, there can be no 
compromise
| with Mohammad's deluded belief, in his pretension to hold an exclusive
red
| telephone line with God or Heaven. Here, there is no room for
sweet-talk,
| even metaphorically: Islam cannot be put on parity with any other 
religion.
| To place a self-delusion on a par with heavenly wisdom is bloody absurd.
|
| http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/FredericDecat51230.htm
|
|
|
 




 3 Posts in Topic:
Re: Mohammed was a glorified *village idiot*
"kangarooistan"  2008-04-27 09:40:01 
Re: Mohammed was a glorified *village idiot*
"Fartass Jewad"  2008-04-26 22:08:09 
Re: Mohammed was a glorified *village idiot*
Ramabriga <Ramabriga@[  2008-05-07 22:28:21 

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