On May 7, 6:27=A0pm, mosherkus...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 6, 10:22=A0pm, Fran <Fran.B...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On May 6, 9:34=A0pm, mosherkus...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On May 6, 3:46=A0pm, Fran <Fran.B...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On May 6, 2:46=A0pm, Sir John Howard <sirjohnhow...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > Carpenter didn't cause offence - MP
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> > > > >http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23654136-29277,00.html
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> > > > > As state parliament prepared to resume sittings, Ms Radisich
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> > > > > nothing had happened on the night to cause her offence.
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> > > > > But she did not deny the specific allegation that Mr Carpenter
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> > > > > her top and exposed her bra.
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> > > > > "At the event in 2004, nothing happened to cause either (then
Labo=
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> > > > > MP) Louise (Pratt), nor I, any kind of offence," Ms Radisich
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> > > > > she arrived at parliament house.
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> > > > > "If it (the top) was lifted, it wasn't lifted by me."
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> > > > > Dianne Guise, the Labor MP for Wanneroo, said she was sitting in
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> > > > > front row at the karaoke night and did not see anything
untoward.
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> > > > So whatever happened and whoever did what, it was considered
> > > > inoffensive by those there.
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> > > > That makes it neither 'perverted' nor ***ual harassment.
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> > > > LJH lies again.
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> > > > Fran
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> > > You know you pseudo leftist feminists are a disgrace to your own
> > > cause.
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> > Says a pseudo-educated rightwing dissembler. You wouldn't have the
> > foggiest grasp, still less positive interest in what our cause was, so
> > you're in no position to evaluate it. Here's a tip though, no charge.
> > Before making a claim, consider finding out what the key questions
> > are, how they've been talked about and likely objections. That way,
> > you finish up looking less stupid while dissembling.
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> > > You could excuse an ALP ****bag from groping strippers or even
> > > molesting kids
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> > And here we have the real bee in your bonnet. You couldn't care less
> > about the humanity of strippers or children. You just want to have
> > some sub-political basis for hitting the ALP over the head.
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> > As for me, I've no problem hitting the ALP over the head. Politically,
> > I think they are a disgrace on a regular basis. I'm appalled that Rudd
> > has blocked the ACT ALP from bringing in Gay Civil Union. The ALP
> > should get the hell out of Iraq and dump 'clean coal' and give that
> > silly laptops in schools program the axe and abandon the bulk of the
> > tax cuts and adopt a different policy on the Murray Darling and much
> > else. I am disgusted with Iemma in particular and with the failure of
> > his cabinet to follow ALP Conference on privatisation policy. Of
> > course, you can't attack them politically because the things I regard
> > as disgraceful are things you approve of. So instead, you are led to
> > try to score cheap points with cheap, empty and disingenuous
> > moralising in a pathetic attempt to cover the rear ends of your fellow
> > travellers amongst the conservative
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> > What a sad case you are.
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> > Fran
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> Your not fooling anyone.
I hope not. By contrast with your lot, I aim to enlighten
> Your trying to cloud the issue.
[You're]
I'm pointing out why you are engaging in mock outrage, and I note,
despite my implicit challenge to say something political, you still
say nothing.
> You are suffering from cognative dissonance.
[cognitive ... from *cognition* rather than 'cogn*a*tion]
Hardly. I can see perfectly well what you're up to.
> You can't choose between ideologies
There's absolutely no conflict between the desire to combat *** or
gender-based disempowerment and the broader desire to ensure that
working people are at the center of the formation and roll out of
social policy.
> and it pisses you off
You seem to be the only one 'pissed off' and as I noted above, it is
you who are forced to choose between competing but impulses.
> your only option, try and change the debate!
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I'm trying to have one that is relevant to aus.politics. You do
understand that this is a political newsgroup, don't you?
> The good thing about you lefties are that your utterly predictable
You can predict that I will always take the side of working people and
those marginalised on the basis of ostensible ethnicity, ***, gender
etc.
I can predict that you will always try to run interference for the
official conservatives, even if that means getting into the gutter
and telling lies.
I can also predict that you will have nothing of interest to say to
anyone interested in using their grey matter.
And that's not a good thing.
Fran
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