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1st part and start to watch 2nd and 3rd part,
Free download here:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/1163059
http://letsrollforums.com/take-zeitgeist-challenge-t16541.html?s=995e73f67cf7c43fc1b44e542b1e22f8&
It really isn't about what we believe, it is about what they believe. And
interestingly enough, the material in Zeitgeist is a very good snapshot of
what they believe. However, what the people who made Zeitgeist promote is
a
total lie. And is the same clever lies which these people have made all
through time to the m*****. And I have sincere doubts about just who the
makers of Zeitgeist are, and just what their motives really are.
Zeitgeist Poorly Researched:
The movie was so poorly researched that it is full of absolute falsehoods.
For instance, did every Nation or nearly every nation have their "own
Savior" with the story of the Resurrection and their own Savior as
Zeitgeist
proclaims? The answer to this is no. They were all telling their own
version
of the same story. And I speak here of their story or belief about the
false
resurrection of Osiris which allegedly occurred 1500 years before Christ.
How do we know it was a false resurrection and a lie? Because Osiris was
cut
into 14 pieces and his body was scattered to the four corners of Egypt.
Hardly a resurrection!
Zeitgeist also makes the false claim that the Vatican is "Home of
Christianity." And lumps all Christians together under the camp, as though
all bible believers somehow answer to this Roman Caesar. Again, not so!
The
Roman Empire, would become known as the "Holy Roman See" after
Constantine.
But it was still the same exact Empire nonetheless! As you will see below,
Rome has always opposed the Bible, the Truth and Jesus Christ. Why do you
think Rome didn't allow anyone but their own State approved Priests to
have
the Bible? For 1281 years! And when they did have their "Roman Mass" why
was
it held in tongues or languages which the people could not understand?
Zeitgeist Mistakes, Errors or Intentional Falsehoods:
Zeitgeist then lists the different Nations or Powers or Principalities,
along with the names of their own "Savior" e.g. Speaking of this false
resurrection some 1500 years before Christ.
For example, and I am going by memory here, They list off people like
Gilgamesh
Vishnu
Nimrod
Osiris
Mars
Zeus
And then list off the respective Powers or Principalities or Fiefdoms that
held to these beliefs and treats each of these different names above as
though they are different people. Not so. They are al the same man, known
by
different names in their own native tongues. And then gives the idea that
these were all separate and individual stories which allegedly happened in
their own lands. Nothing could be further from the truth! It is the same
story about the same man, with the name or title of the same man in many
different tongues and languages! And to be honest, for the person or
persons
who made this movie to have "researched" this as well as they did to be so
accurate on some aspects of this "Mystery Religion" of Osiris and then to
miss this MOST OBVIOUS and EASY TO SEE TRUTH is really not all that likely
or possible in my opinion. Also, it is clear he has an anti Christian bias
through the entire video just by his snide tones he takes every time he
mentions Christ, or Christianity. It cannot be missed. You can hear his
hatred for Christians in his voice inflection throughout the movie. It is
obvious he has nothing but total contempt for Christians and didn't even
try
to hide this. Had he made the same movie about this and treated the Jews
as
he did Christians, the anti-defamation league would have been knocking on
his door inside of a month.
Zeitgeist Fails to Understand the Two resurrections, One False, One Real:
Osiris vs. Christ
They also get the name of this alleged "savior" wrong. It wasn't even
Horus
that these stories or "myths" were made about. It was his Father "Osiris."
Osiris had two sons I know of; Horus and Tiwi. But because of the
confusion
of tongues and languages many people often make mistakes about the names
of
the 'gods' and often interchange them mistakingly. Myself included. It is
very hard and frustrating to find one of these people, who were very real
people in world history, and lived and walked the earth, when they have
some
40 or 50 different names (actually far more) and titles as well among the
various languages. It makes for very difficult and time consuming
research,
which is obvious is lacking in Zeitgeist or it wouldn't contain these
obvious errors.
Nimrod was known by this name amongst the Persians or Babylonians. After
the
confusion of tongues, and with now many languages, he was now known to the
Egyptians as Osiris. To the Indians in India, he was known as Vishnu. To
the
Romans he was known as the great god Mars. To the Greeks, known as the god
Zeus. Amongst the Nordic peoples in Central Europe, he was known as the
god
'Woden.' All the same man, and all the same story. And it all revolved
around the false resurrection of this god, which happened in Egypt.
In the same way today, Jesus Christ is known by many different names and
titles throughout the earth. And I speak here of those who use the name
along with the true account of the story of Jesus Christ. Does this mean
that all of the Nations are telling accounts of their own individual story
which happened in their own Nation? That each had their very own Savior?
No!
They are telling the same story of the same man, which happened in what
was
once known as Israel. In the same vein, all the different Powers,
Principalities and Fiefdoms he speaks of having their own Savior account,
goes back to the single story and account of the resurrection of Osiris.
Zeitgeist Purposely Calls Rome "Center of Christianity" which is False:
Rome
has Opposed Bible Belief Since their beginnings:
The other huge lie, which I don't for a minute think the makers of
Zeitgeist
made by mistake, is that 'Rome' was the home and Christianity, and that it
represents 'Christianity' in any way, shape or form. This has never been
true, and could not be any further from the truth. And even in the video
above, posted by Rob in the first post, he makes the error of saying that
Rome was 'infiltrated' by Freemasons and the like and was thus corrupted.
Not so! And again, nothing could be further from the truth! Rome was an
Empire who wor****pped this false resurrection of Osiris. And all of the
'gods' associated with it. And the Roman Empire was never 'Christianized'
or
converted to Christ. And I can prove this 7 ways till Sunday. First of
all,
Empires cannot converted or receive salvation. It is only something which
can happen on the individual level. Person by person.
The "Co-Opting of Christianity by Rome:"
The reason Pagan Rome 'Christianized' itself, was because there was one
foe
which they simply could never conquer. And this was the m***** of people
in
its own Empire who were hearing about Christ and believing THAT story,
rather than the false resurrection which Rome held to. And not
consequently,
the Roman Empire derived its very power from this false mystery religion
and
false resurrection of Nimrod or Osiris. As the Roman Caesar was the 'head'
of these mystery religions, and as such could and did dictate the doctrine
and dogma of its believers. e.g. Control of their lives in every way,
shape
or form. And because the Roman Caesar was 'lord' of this religion, he held
the title of Pontifex Maximus, which means 'chief bridge-builder to the
netherworld.' And as such demanded he be wor****pped as god! Any who would
not bow before Caesar and call him 'lord', would be imprisoned, tortured
or
put to death. They would be known as 'heretics' and as enemies of the
Empire, and called subversive elements.
But they could not stop the spreading of this 'other resurrection' which
was
spreading like wild fire throughout the Empire, called 'Christianity' or
'the Way.' And for about 360 years tried to stomp it out by persecuting
the
Christians and putting them to death en mass by way of inquisition. Yet
with
each and every new wave of inquisitions, Christianity would then double,
triple and quadruple. They would kill 300,000 Christians in a single
swoop,
and not just Christians, but any who dared not follow the false gods. And
when they killed 300,000 people, 600,000 or 900,000 would then pop up in
their place. They found themselves in a no win situation. As a matter of
fact they found themselves in a losing battle where one day they would
lose
their Empire, and that the Christians would one day win, and rule this
empire if for nothing else than their sheer numbers. The Roman
Inquisitions
all through the Empire was akin to throwing gas on an already hot and
burning fire.
Pagan Romes Final Solution to the Christian Faith: Subvert it & Dominate
it!
So what did they do to fix this situation? Nothing at first. For none of
the
Roman Caesars or Emperors had enough wisdom to handle the issue, yet. But
then one day a man named Constantine was crowned Pontifex Maximus, or
Caesar. And he had the solution and the wisdom to deal with this issue. At
first he tried as his successors did to kill, pillage and burn the
Christians. Until one day when it dawned upon him, and he "saw the
darkness." e.g. A play of the words of seeing the Light..
He saw that it would advantageous to simply fake his own 'conversion.' And
did so in 312AD. He had a 'vision' whereby he saw a giant cross in the
sky,
and yada, yada, yada, he now became a 'christian. ' It was here where
Constantine started the co-opting of Christianity. He ordered the Empire
to
become 'christian' as he had become and 'saw the light.' e.g. Darkness.
The Renaming of the Roman Religious Orders; Cor****ate Takeover:
So what did the Roman Senate do? They complied of course, for what else
can
one do when ordered to do something by an egomaniacal madman who
considered
himself god? But in order to insure that the new 'converts' to
'christianity' would remain loyal to what he considered the 'true god'
Osiris, and to ensure loyalty, the 'doctrine and dogma' of the scriptures
would and could only be interpreted by who else? Yes, Pontifex Maximus or
Caesar! They would water down the words of the scriptures and make them
mean
things never intended. They would change it to doublespeak. With this
established now, a few more changes to the Roman Empire would need to be
made to make this work. Their Orders of the Mystery Religions of Nimrod or
Osiris would now be renamed. The Order of Osiris would now become known
and
renamed as 'The Secret Order of Jesus.' Thus, all of their Statues and
Icons
of Osiris would now become known as Jesus Christ. The False resurrection
would now become center stage, but hidden. And they would continue
exhorting
the people to obey and wor****p these statues and icons without question or
wavering.
The Renaming of their False Gods:
The statues and idols of Semeramis, the 'queen of heaven' as she was
known,
would now be renamed to 'Mary.' The 'mother of god.' Remember Semeramis
was
the mother, and also the wife of Osiris. This same statue would remain and
be wor****pped still. But her name would be changed. Thus the Order of
Semeramis, a military wing of the Roman Empire, of religious enforcement
(similar to the Dominicans would later become) would now be renamed "The
Secret Order of Mary."
Their great god Thor, Hercules & Jupiter (AKA-Shem, and all the same man
and
god in different languages) would now be renamed to become St. Peter. And
thus the Order of Jupiter would now become the Secret Order of Peter. All
of
the statues you see in the Roman Catholic Church today are the very same
statues and idols wor****pped under the Roman Empire of their pagan gods.
Only their names have been changed to protect the heresy. To protect the
lie. To hide their origins. To confuse the people.
One thing would remain unchanged though. Their pompous regalia and
religious
garb would stay for the most part the same as before. The Caesar would
still
wear 'Dagons Mitre' and the 'Triple Crown' as before during religious
ceremonies. He would still clothe himself in the White & Scarlet arrogant
pomp we see still to this day! The Roman Senators, now known as "Roman
Cardinals" would still war their ceremonial garb they used to wear at the
religious festivals of the 'gods;' Only now they would wear them always.
Their Priests would still give "the mass" as they did to the Pagan Roman
Churches, but with all of the new names for the old pagan gods and false
resurrection of Osiris.
The Renaming of the Roman Government Offices & their New "Christian"
Names:
They would need to change the names of their government offices and
agencies
as well, in order to hide the origins of their 'christianity.' The Roman
Senate would now be renamed to become the 'Roman Curia.' The Roman Emperor
would be renamed to become 'the Pope.' What was known as the office of
'Roman Office of Religious Ecclesiastical matters' would now be called
"Church Ecclesiastical matters.' The Roman College of Senators would now
be
renamed to become "The College of Cardinals." The Throne of Jupiter which
Caesar sat upon would now become known as the "Throne of St. Peter" But it
is the very same throne which the Caesars sat upon!
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