the Chinese still pretend they Chinese do respect the
Malay's lands and Malay's territory .
That was why the Chinese insulted the Malay people inside
Malay' s terrtiory in 1969 ,
that is why the Chinese are still insisting on staying in
Malaysia .
well , the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia copied the event of May
13th 1969 ,
and the Khmer Rouge made Phnom Penh a ghost city in April
1975 .
the Chinese were causing racial problems in SE ASIA,
in Malaysia , in Indonesia , in Myanmar ,
the Chinese were sup****ting the Khmer Rouge to kill the
Khmer people in Cambodia .
so when will the Chinese in ASEAN return home to China ?
the Japs have gone home to Japan in the last century ,
are the Chinese in ASEAN hoping to hijack ASEAN for and
on behalf of the Chinese people in China .?
the US is worried by the Chinese new sub naval base in
Hainan .
will ASEAN become Chinese territory in the next century ?
On May 15, 5:58=A0am, "CKinSF <ck_in_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <CKinSF
<ck_in_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> wrote:
> ttp://ktmc.blgspt.cm/2006/01/rl-cs-f-my-13-rts.tml
> =A0gst wrtr vr t Mlys-Tdy blg, Nrsn Mjd n n rtcl ttld Tm fr =A0nn-rc bsd
g=
nd, wc
> bsclly s =A0pltcl plg fr t PKR pprc twrds t Ntnl cnmc Plcy (NP), wrt t
fll=
wng:
>
> =93T NP ws lncd t rmdy t sc-cnmc nqlty tt ld t t My 13, 1969 rcl rts.=94
>
> Wll, tt=92s ptntly ncrrct!
>
> Wl sc-cnmc nqlty rgrtbly dd xst, wt d ld t t My 13 rcl rt ws nt tt. t ws
t=
r tt t
> Mlys grw dsncntd wt tn Prm Mnstr Tngk bdl Rmn=92s Prktn (llnc) prty,
rsltn=
g n mssv
> lsss fr s cltn.
>
> T tr rsn ldng t t rts ws t rlng Prktn prty, r t b mr spcfc, ts dmnnt
cmpnn=
t, MN,
> lsng s mny sts tt t ws n t vrg f srrndrng Slngr t t DP, nd vry nrly lsng
P=
rk t t
> PPP f t Snvsgm brtrs.
>
> Tt ws wt csd t rts!
>
> T Slngr MN cld nt cp wt t tgt f lsng Mlys=92s prmr stt (t tt tm) t t
Cns-n=
dn prts.
> Wn t Slngr Stt lctn rslts bcm mr bvs, tr ws lrdy dscssn f w t ccmmdt
=A0nn=
-Mslm
> Mntr Bsr (MB r Cf Mnstr) n Slngr, bcs n f t prncpl rls f =A0MB s t dvs t
S=
ltn f t
> Stt n rlgs ffrs. Ts sss wld ndbtdly v nfrtd sm Mlys.
>
> T Prktn d lrdy lst Pnng t t nw rsng str, t (tn) mgty Grkn Prty. Bt, nlk
Sl=
ngr,
> Pnng d lwys bn =A0Cns-mjrty stt, s ts lss ws nt s snstv t Mly prd. ls,
jdg=
ng by t
> (1969) vtng trnd, MN prcvd tt by t nxt lctn, t wld prbbly ls Prk s wll.
>
> =93...the DAP, which is made up mostly of Chinese, conducted a
procession =
in Kuala
> Lumpur in which they insulted and uttered statements that upset the
Malays=
..=94
>
> In its reference to the 2001 Kampung Medan incident, the textbook also
bla=
med
> Indian youths as one of the factors.
>
> =93The Malay community in the said area had lost their patience with the
> anti-social attitude of groups of Indian youths and wanted to teach them
a=
> lesson ...=94
>
> Prof Dr Khoo Kay Kim, a historian and also Human Rights Commission
(Suhaka=
m)
> commissioner pointed out that in fact it was BN coalition member Gerakan
a=
nd not
> DAP which had participated in the procession in Kuala Lumpur's Kampung
Bar=
u that
> triggered the 1969 riots.
>
> Well, how about that? I knew the Gerakan had participated in the
motorcade=
> through Kampung Baru but I wasn=92t aware the DAP hadn=92t. So the DAP
has=
to play
> the role of the villain when it was the Gerakan who were jeering and
hurli=
ng
> jibes in Kampung Baru.
>
> Professor Khoo said this was another instance where the objectives of
the
> textbook were lost due to the =91blame-game=92 played by its writers.
>
> =93You=92re again blaming people. So how can you hope to bring people
toge=
ther? It
> would be better to say there was a misunderstanding on both sides. A
book =
like
> that will cause no end to the damage.=94
>
> Well, the way I see it: firstly. it=92s hardly likely that UMNO would
admi=
t to its
> role in the May 13 riots for the reason I had blogged in The Real Cause
of=
the
> May 13 Riots.
>
> Secondly, it=92s a typical (traditional) Malay worldview that one can
see =
in the
> earlier local movies =96 namely, the Malays are a very patient forgiving
t=
ype (Pak
> Cik Ahmad Daud, dressed up immaculatedly & complete with spotted neck
scar=
f,
> sitting in an easy arm chair smoking his pipe and pontificating
seriously =
and
> wisely) and very reluctant to retaliate, while the Chinese have always
bee=
n
> ****trayed as an avaricious and raucous ethnic community (fat Chinaman
swea=
ting
> in singlet wheeling and dealing with a dodgy Chinese weight measuring
tool=
) and
> the Indians as unreliable or at best, court jesters.
>
> Views have changed since but whoever is promoting that book of burning
bri=
dges
> must be from an earlier school of thoughts =96 blame the Chinese and
India=
ns as
> they are known trouble-makers!
> posted by KTemoc at 1:38 PM =A0
>
> 3 Comments:
> =A0ali allah ditta said...
> On 13 May 1969 I was walking along Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman when I saw
pe=
ople
> running helter-skelter.As I was running along Jalan TAR towards Jalan
Mela=
ka,at
> a distace there were these groups of people marching & shouting loudly
car=
rying
> "rocket symbol" flag..yelling..you know what!
>
> Maybe,during that point of time Prof Dr Khoo Kay Kim,was sleeping at
home.=
>
> T MN mmbrs=92 ngr ws frtr ggrvtd by sm tgtlss jrng by t DP-Grkn prty
vctrs=
n Slngr
> s ty cndctd tr jblnt vctry mtrcd rnd Kl Lmpr (tg t ldrs f t Grkn Prty md
=
=A0pblc
> plgy t fllwng dy). Tt ngr t t ntnkbl lss f Mlys's prmr Stt t
=A0Cns-dmntd =
prty nd
> t jbs nd jrngs by n nsnstv DP-Grkn wr wt lt t rcl fr, nd nt t sc-cnmc
nqlt=
y.
>
> ftr-nt: snc tn, rcnt fcts rvld by Prf K ndct tt t ws nt t DP bt t Grkn
Prt=
y wc
> dd t prvctv jrng
>
> T rcl-pltcl tnsn n Slngr tn ws lk, t s =A0clc=E9, sttng n =A0pwdr kg f
xpl=
svs n tndr
> dry cndtns wl ttmptng t lgt =A0cgrtt. Tw dys ftr t fnl rslts wr dtrmnd,
t =
rts
> strtd n Kmpng Br, Kl Lmpr, rgt n frnt f t MB's ffcl rsdnc ftr ncrrct (r
fb=
rctd)
> rmrs tt Cns gngs n Stpk d ttckd Mlys.
>
> prt frm MN lsng spprt frm ts Mly cnsttncs, w dd t ppstn d s wll?
>
> n t 1969 lctn, t ppstn prts cmprsng DP, Grkn, PPP, nd PS (ys, PS) dvlpd
=
=A0jnt
> dbl-prng strtgy wr (1) ty vdd rnnng gnst c tr n rdr t prvnt vt splttng,
nd=
(2)
> cmpgnd fr c tr, skng tr spprtrs t vt fr nyn tr tn t Prktn. Mny Mlys d
vtd =
fr t
> Grkn bcs (t tt tm) t ws trly =A0mlt-tnc prty.
>
> Dgrssng fr =A0wl, cmpr tt ppstn nfd lctn strtgy nd dscpln n drng t t pln
w=
t t 2004
> ppstn dbcl, wr n vrcnfdnt PS wntd t g t ln wl =A0wsy wsy PKR wsn't sr wr
t=
pt ts
> bst ft frwrd. T mk mttrs wrs, t Cns-ndn cmpnnt f PKR tssld wt t DP fr
Cns =
sts.
>
> =A0blv t DP ws ctlly sncr n wntng =A0cltn wt PS nd PKR bcs Lm Kt Sng ws
(s=
tll s)
> bsssd wt dnyng t Brsn Nsnl ts tw-trd mjrty, nd tt cld nly b cvd f t
ppstn =
prts r
> ntd. Bt wt =A0rnwy PS tt ws frgtnng t st t f ts spprtrs, n nnyng Cns
sctn =
f PKR
> tryng t wrstl trdtnl DP sts wy, nd rmmbrng ts pnfl lssn n 1999, t wsly
(fr=
tt
> lctn) dcdd t stck t ts sl stndln strtgy wc f crs d =A0lmttn n trms f
wnnng=
sts.
>
> nywy, ts pstng s t st t fcts crrct bt t rl cs f t My 13 rcl rts n 1969.
vn=
t
> Ntnl Scrty Cmmssn n ts ffcl rprt n t rts dd nt ttrbt t cs t t sc-cnmc
dspr=
ty, bt
> t 't Mlyn Cmmnst Prty nd llgl Cns gngs'. W nd t br n mnd ts ws
=A0Gvrnmnt =
rprt s w
> sldn't xpct t t sy sm lsrs wr bldy nsprtng.
>
> t rsltd n =A0slnt qt pltcl cp d=92tt wtn t Prktn prty, wt Tngk bdl Rmn
rmv=
d frm pwr,
> nd t scndncy f Tn Rzk s t nxt Prm Mnstr. Bcs Rzk wntd t Mly vts bck fr t
P=
rktn
> dvsd t NP t ddrss t cnmc pstn f t Mlys. T NP ws n fct bsd n Dr Mtr's
smnl =
wrk T
> Mly Dlmm, wc prpsd =A0strng ffrmtv cnmc prgrmm fr Mlys t ddrss tr
dsdvntgd=
sc-cnmc
> stndng. Tn Rzk ls brllntly mscltd t Grkn, PPP nd PS by bsrbng tm nt
=A0nw =
Brsn
> Nsnl - 'll blg n ts ntr tm.
>
> =A0spps n cld rg trg =A0tns cn f cs nd ffct tt t t rt f t, t sc-cnmc
dsprt=
y ld t
> Prktn's lss f Mly spprt, wc ld t MN's mssv lsss f Fdrl nd Stt sts (vn Dr
M=
tr lst
> s Kbng Ps st t PS), wc ld t fr nd ngr mng MN mmbrs, wc cpld by nsnstv
prvc=
tns by
> t DP mmbrs, ld t t tbrk f t rts.
>
> Bt tt wld b strtcng t. Lt=92s kp r y n t fct tt t ws t pndng lss f
Mlys=92=
s prmr stt
> f Slngr tt trggrd t fr, trd nd cnsqntl rtng. n tr wrds t cs ws MN's
nblty =
t tlrt
> n rsn f ts dmnnt pltcl pstn. ddrssng t sc-cnmc dsprty trg t NP ws mrly t
v=
d frtr
> lss f ts pltcl pwrs.
> Lbls: my 13
>
> pstd by KTmc t 9:59 M =A0
>
> 22 Cmmnts:
> =A0l ll dtt sd...
> KTmc,
>
> Yr nlyss f My 13t rts d mk sm sns. wvr,n tng =A0lrnd frm ts trgdy ws
kllng=
& mdrng
> lds s n wr. =A0blmd bt prts.
>
> My prgnnt sstr ws klld drng t My 13t 1969 trgdy wn ty slt pn r stmc t KL
R=
x. =A0ws
> t Jln Mlk wn =A0sw lgns rnnng wld wt prng & sprs,w =A0mngd t scp s
=A0mrcl=
..
>
> Bt =A0lrnt t lv wt t nd nvr br ny grdgs gnst nyn,r gnst tr rc,bcs =A0t
ndr=
stnd tr
> flngs, fr ty t lst mny f tr lvd ns tn.
>
> =A0tnk lts cls ts cptr f My 13t 69,nd lts lk d fr sm mnngfll lf fr r
> cldrn,grndcldrn & tr cldrn yrs t cm n ts cntry clld Mlys.
>
> 7:30 PM, Jnry 09, 2006 =A0
> =A0KTmc sd...
> grd, nd =A0slt yr frgvng ntr wl symptsng wt t trrbl ft f yr sstr. My
ncl's=
gd frnd
> (Mly) ws bsd t Fdrl ttr wl ntr ncl (dstnt rltv) ws csd by prng wldng
dlms =
t
> Kmpng Br - =A0scpd n s nd Cp. nncnts f bt sds sffrd.
>
> Tr wr ls mzng strs - =A0Mly prtctd s ngbr, =A0Cns fmly n Jln Prk n Pnng,
w=
l dwn st,
> Cns wt s fmly wl drvng frm p t KL t ngt, pckd p =A0Mly cpl (sbnd njrd)
by =
t rdsd t
> tk t sptl - n rdr t ccmmdt tm n t cr, =A0lft tw mmbrs f s fmly n t rdsd
n =
t mddl f
> nwr.
>
> n my Cns vllg my fmly nd ngbrs lkd ftr =A0Mly fmly, w d lvd wt s fr trty
y=
rs snc
> my grndftr's dys - n n tcd tm trgt t trblnt prd - ty wr n ntrnsc prt f r
v=
llg.
>
> Ts pstng s nt bt rlvng trgc vnts - t's t crrct t mstkn cs f t rts.
>
> 7:50 PM, Jnry 09, 2006 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> Slflss cts t lp =A0ppl f ntr rc drng =A0rcl rt ndcts tt Mlysns s =A0wl d
c=
r fr c tr.
> wvr, t gvrnmnt s md sr tt ts srts f cts wll nvr ppn gn wt tr tncntrc
plcs.=
Mr tn
> vr Mlys cn b sly mnpltd by frgn pwrs. Lk t rq'S Snn rl ndr Sddm nd y wll
s=
sds f
> MN rl n t.
>
> 6:37 PM, Jn 01, 2006 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> Rpng frm r pnfl pst brngs nly srrw,
> Lkng frwrd n n knws f tr s stll =A0tmr,
> Gd lmgty n ll yr wrldy dnmntns ld s t yr prmsd slvtn, r
> blss s yr cldrn, wt t crg nd wsdm t sprt,
> Rlgns frm Pltcns.
>
> r w blnd? df? r mt?
> r w psnd wt vl nd trd fr n ntr.
> My nm s =A0sng, =A0sd t v =A0gd frn clld l.
> Tgtr wt smy, w cnqrd t rvr nd t ntd s rgt bnd my ld sc scl.
> Wy sld w tlrt r dffrncs.. =A0sy w clbrt r dffrncs.
> Fllw mlysns, stnd p fr yr blfs.
> D nt lt njstcs pss nd nvr llw ngr t rdn yr rts.
> mk my mlys btfl gn.
>
> 5:20 PM, gst 02, 2006 =A0
> =A0KTmc sd...
> wll sd, nn
>
> 6:37 PM, gst 02, 2006 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> =A0wll s ts s my rfrnc mtt n my cmmnt - lrn frm ystrdy, lv prpsly tdy,
pln=
> cnstrctvly fr tmrrw.
>
> n my cmmnt, =A0rtr ps qstns s 'm nt n psssn f ny ndpt stdy, prsnl xprnc
nr=
ny
> crdbl dt.
>
> Bfr =A0strt, =A0wnt t stt tt 'm ll fr pc nd frgvnss, nd my ntnt n
cmmntng =
s
> cnstrctv. Bt 'm nt fr "lt's nt tlk bt ts nymr". w r w gng t lrn wt t d,
wt=
nt t
> d, f w r nt brv ng t stdy t ncdnt bjctvly. s r scty s frgl s nt t b bl t
w=
tstnd
> n bjctv stdy f ts strc fct - t rt dd ppn, ppl wr klld nd tr wr cng f
lctd
> gvrnnc.
>
> Frstly, v w lrnd frm t My 13 ncdnt? By "w" =A0mn t crrnt dlt Mlysns. f w
v=
lrnt
> nytng, wt v w lrnt? s ts lrnngs gt ny rcl trt? Fr xmpl dd t Mlysn Mly
lrnd=
smtng
> dffrnt frm Mlysn Cns, nd t Mlysn ndns? =A0rmmbr =A0cns tx drvr sd smtng
t =
ts ffct
> ftr t ncdnt -
>
> "W, =A0frst tm vt fr ppstn gt rts lrdy. Nxt tm =A0dr nt vt fr rckt
nymr".
>
> Ws ts tx drvr rtcltng wt ws flt nd lrnt by mny wrkng clss mlysn cns?
>
> Mr frflly, dd w lrnd tt "Wnnrs" ( d nt mn ny prtclr rc by ts wrd. Smply,
t=
pltcl
> prty tt wn nd t pltcl prty tt lst)sldn't "vr clbrt", bcs f ty d, t
"Lsrs" =
my gt
> ngry nd strt rts, ftr wc w gt ntr lctn, .
> F w ls n =A0dmcrtc lctn,
> TN prtst, mk trbl
> NTL y gt ntr dmcrtc lctn,
> D NTL w gt rslts tt st s?
>
> Wll, t bv s ll fr lrnng frm ystrdy. Lt's lk t TDY.
>
> r w n =A0mr mtr, mr rclly rslnt nvrnmnt tn 1969? n tr wrds, f t rlng
prty =
lss t
> nxt lctn, r w dfntly, mr lkly, lss lkly, r dfntly NT gng t xprnc t sm
scnr=
? s
> stds bn cndctd lng ts lns? v w tkn stps t mtgt sc =A0pssblty?
>
> Mvng n, lt's ps sm qstns n TMRRW. f ndd w dd sc =A0stdy s mntnd bv, nd
fnd=
tt sc
> trt stll xst n r scty, tn t qstn s - wt r r plns t mprv mttrs? r ts plns
b=
sd n
> scl scnc stds, cnmc try, r ty r frmltd by mr pltcns w lttr mplyd sm scl
sc=
nc PD
> t rvrs jstfy tr plcs?
>
> =A0wnt t nd my cmmnts wt wt =A0vrrd =A0ndn by syng t s ftr. t wnt smtng
lk=
ts -
> ndn By - p, r w nt ndns?
> ndn Ftr - Ys, f crs w r.
> ndn By - Tn wy d w v t pply fr Vs t vst nd?
> ndn Ftr - ... ts bcs w r Mlysn ndns, nd nt nd ndns.
> ndn By - p, r w Mlysn frst r ndns frst?
> ndn ftr - f crs w r mlysn frst, nd nd jst ppn t b t plc r grndprnts cm
frm=
..
>
> T sm stry cn b tld f t Mlysn Cns.
>
> Wn wll w (Mlysn cns & Mlysn ndns) b cnsdrd smply s Mlysns, nd b gvn
smply =
ql
> rgts wt tr mlysns?
>
> Cmmnts By
> Btmn wkns
>
> 3:04 M, ctbr 27, 2006 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> Btmn,
>
> Tt wll ppn nly wn Mlys cn mrry nd v kds wt Cns nd ndns WTT vng t Cns r
ndn=
s
> cnvrt t slm.
>
> Dd y knw tt n Trky, =A0tr mslm cntry, Crstns nd Mslm mrry c tr wtt ny f
ts=
cnvrt
> nnsns ?
>
> s lng s t rcst n MN w crtd ts plcy nfrc t, w cn "crflly" xpct My 13 t
rpt.=
nly
> ts tm, nstd f prng, w cn xpct tmtc wpns, s t mrdrs frm 1969 ws frm t rmy
n=
ywy
> (dsgsd n plnsclt). nd sm cns dd's prgnnt sstr wll gt bllts n r stmc nstd
f=
slts.
>
> =A0wll...
>
> 4:27 PM, Nvmbr 29, 2006 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> W y W..
> Lps 'dbkn' dn 'dbrk' klr d bm Mlys n...ms tk mbl plng nk mngs Bs
Mly...plg=
nk
> mbl prnsp2 gm slm, tdk smst km kn msk slm, tp bl mnls dsn tnp lm, rng
mnlk=
n km n
> 'gblk' dn ktk bw mngkk jmbn trblk.....sm t y...mmlkn. Tp k rs brk jl n
bkn=
rng
> Mlys, ml rm brk2 yng bgn dtngny dr Sngpr...mklml sngpr pkk sm d kn tbng,
b=
rk bt
> bsng skt kn msk 'dngn' mkny bt bsng rcst dn nt-slm d blg2 Mlys.
>
> 2:25 PM, Dcmbr 13, 2006 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> rlgn nd nfrrty s t wy tt t gvrnmnt kp tr grps n t rgns f pwr.
>
> =A0blv s rbn flks dn't by ts bllst nymr, t lst nt t yngr gnrtn.
>
> 6:12 PM, My 09, 2007 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> wll, tt dpnds n w d =A0ng t wt.
>
> Tr, t yngr gnrtn v lrnt t frgt t rcl brrr. Bt, tr's stll =A0lt f t yng
rbn=
flks tt
> r rcst, bt nnymsly. Wn ty'r tgtr, ty ct lk frnds. Bt wn ty'r tgtr wt tr
wn=
rc (n
> mttr wt rc), ty'll mt t wrds f dtst nd rrttn bt t tr rcs, spclly f
=A0mmbr=
f t tr
> rc s d trbl wt tm.
>
> 'm jst =A0nv yng dlt, bt 'v lrnt t lst smtng bt Mlysn Scty. W R STLL NT
NT=
D. 'd lv
> t s my rc prspr, bt nt t t xpns f tr rcs' sffrng.
>
> 3:27 PM, My 24, 2007 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> =A0RNG KLWR (btmn)!
>
> W t ck tld y tt Trky s =A0TR MSLM cntry??? Yr =A0Pk frnds =A0...? w lng
v =
y lvd n Ms
> (r Spr fr tt mttr - t lnd stln fr s)?? nd, =A0nvr try t ndrstnd =A0bt bt
s=
lm! v mny
> cls Cns & ndn frnds w mny =A0tm rfr ND & CN s MTRLND!!! S, =A0lwys
jkngly =
tld tm f
> MTRLND s S GGDD ... wy nt g bck?? Y wll tn knw yr ft f y wr n Cn drng
Crmn=
M r,
> drng t Cltrl Rvltn!! Wc tnc grp tt ppss t tcng f Mts & Sc n ngls; wc tnc
g=
rp tt
> ppss tt Skl Wwsn Knsp, wc tnc grp tt ppss ts & tt .... bt n t nd njy mr
bn=
fts tn
> ts w spprt tm ...!!!! nd =A0rng Klwr, blndly blmd t rmd frcs fr kllng yr
p=
pl bt w
> mny mlys wr klld by t ff sprngs f g n & =A0sn (yr prsnt gngstrz l ...
dd!!=
); dd vr
> lk t t fct??? & =A0m dmn sr, =A0r dfntly t ff sprng f cn png!!
>
> 1:48 PM, Jn 24, 2007 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> xcs m nnyms??? t gvrmnt s lwys gnst t cns nd t ndn cmmnts!! dd =A0gt t
pnt=
?? tcng
> mts & sc n ng s qlly t xtngs t cns n tml tcng!!! wc lngg s mr mprtnt
nw?? =
Mly
> lngg r cns lngg?? =A0r nt =A0pltcn n =A0dn n =A0pc f st f ts stpd pltcns
w=
try t gt rd f
> cns lngg n tml lngg stp by stp!!! Dmb!!
>
> 3:06 M, gst 28, 2007 =A0
> =A0mrbz sd...
> Sg... my gdnss ppl. Ts s sppsd t b =A0wb pstng f pnns n n vnt lng pst?
>
> nd yt r w v sc trgt bsv lngg nd nm cllng, ww fls jst lk jn 13t 1969!
>
> Cm n mlysns, f y cn't vn v =A0cln, lty xcng f pnns r n t nt (nnymsly t
=A0=
mgt dd!)
> wtt rsrtng t sc lw nd nsmly bvr tn =A0gss t vsn f =A0flly ntd Mlys s
stll =
wt t s;
> jst =A0pp drm.
>
> 6:30 PM, ctbr 18, 2007 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> Mslms v s mc ngr n tm - wndr wy - vn't md cnnctn wt t lmgty Sprt,
=A0blv.
>
> =A0ls tnk ntr My 13 s t rgt wy t cng t pr tttd f t Gvrnmnt - t wll b
=A0sr=
t ddly psd
> bt tn, pssbly t cldrn f ts lft bnd wll v =A0bttr Mlys. =A0scrfc wrt
cnsdrn=
g.
>
> 3:18 M, Nvmbr 18, 2007 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> Cm n, y mst knw t sbjct bfr prpsng yr pnt.
> Trky s nt =A0rl slmc cntry, t s =A0SCLR cntry. n slm nd n ny rlgn y
bsclly=
cn nt
> mrrs smn tt s dffrnt rlgn frm y. xcpt n slm, ts frm t ld tstmnt s ls
cnsdr=
d n t
> sm rlgn - brmc. S ty cld gt mrrd n Trky nd ndns tc. Bt nt n Mlys.
> S y lv n Mlys tn fllw t Mlysn cltr.
> T pnt s t lv pcflly n Mlys y mst ndrstnd nd tlrt t Mly cltr nd rlgn. ntr
w=
rd y
> mst rspct tm t wy ty rspct yr cltr nd rlgn. s smpl s tt.
>
> 3:53 PM, Nvmbr 18, 2007 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> Gys,
>
> =A0rspct yr vws nd strcl fcts bt t rl cs f t nfrtnt My13 blck ncdnt.nd
=A0=
ls rspct
> yr pnn nd p fr lvng tgtr s Mlysn rrspct f rc nd rlgn. sr t sm t..
> Bt n tng nd t crrctd s bt t vw bt rlgn.. Trkt S NT n slmc cntry. t s
=A0sc=
lr
> cntry.Ts s =A0gnrl knwldg tng.nd t gt mrrd wt =A0mslm,n mst cnvrt t mslm
b=
cs mslm cn
> nly gt mrrd t =A0mslm.
> Fllstp! =A0cn b f ny rcs r frm ny ntnlty bt mst b =A0mslm.Ts s rlgn
knwldg=
... nd tr s
> ntng t b frd f ls..f =A0ndn mrrd =A0mslm, =A0cnvrtd t =A0mslm bt =A0s
stll=
n ndn..nt =A0mly.
> cn stll d wtvr =A0sd t d bfr xcpt f crs wt s frbddn n slm..s wt's t bg
dl?=
> My wf's mtr s =A0cns nd w r ppy p t nw,tnk Gd.
> S yr prcptn f lvng tgtr n pc nd rmny wt ts ntr-rc mrrg s nt nccrt nd t
wrn=
g
> sttmnt bt tr rlgn s dngrs.
> Mslm mst rspct tr rcs nd rlgns wl t t sm tm strngly prctsng s
rlgn.Fy,drng=
r
> prpt's tm,w vn v Jws nd tr rlgn lvng pply ndr slm gvrnmnt nd slmc lw n
Mdn=
...
>
> nywy,w sr t sm vsn f Mlysn n rmny.
>
> Rgds nd my pc b pn y.
>
> 1:06 M, Nvmbr 19, 2007 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> jst t ddrss wt s bn tcd
> pn..
>
> n nnyms cmmnt t Btmn =A0fw cmmnts bv...
>
> Trky @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
t mnrty f nkr prds tslf n bng =A0vry sclr cntry.. S syng tt Trky
s =
=A0Mslm
> cntry.. s nccrt.
>
> =A0tnk n f t cmmnts bv gt t pnt crrct..
> lt's clbrt r dffrncs.. nt tlrt(ts snds s f t's
> tds )
>
> =A0m Mly nd stll n my 20's
> gnrlly =A0wld sy 'v nvr d prblms nd =A0cn cnt qt =A0fw gd frnds w r
ndns, =
cns nd
> mlys.. nd ls trs fr tt mttr..
>
> bt t prblm s.. pltcs n Mlys s rcl pltcs.. vryn plys t rcl crd..
> =A0tnk w sld lv ll ts n t 60-70's r wr t sld b lft tr..
>
> =A0ls fl tt smtms dn't rlz t fct tt Mlys=3Dslm
> sm Mlys v t blf tt slm s =A0Gd gvn rgt t tm nd ty cn bldy wll d nytng wt
t=
m.. t t
> pnt f strtcng t tcngs =A0bt t fr..
>
> Mslms cn mrry t "ppl f t bk" s mntnd brmc , ld tstmnt tc2
>
> "Mslms v s mc ngr n tm - wndr wy - vn't md cnnctn wt t lmgty Sprt,
=A0blv.=
"
> ts ws n f t cmmnts bv..
>
> ts cmmnts wld b t tngs tt ngr m.. w t ftn cmmnt blndly n tngs tt w v n
knw=
ldg
> f.. frm bt sds f t brrr..
> vrytng s rctnry..
> wy nt try t ndrstnd?
> rtr tn mk ff t cff cmmnts tt frtr nflm tngs mr?
>
> lstly
> Mly dsn't ql t mslms..
> t mlys v t rn t tg f mslms..
> t mny mlys sy ty r mslms wn n fct ty dn't prctc wt ty prc..
>
> ts s ll my mbl pnn.. srry f ts ts =A0fw bttns..
>
> 10:56 PM, Nvmbr 21, 2007 =A0
> =A0Gv Pc =A0Cnc..(wll y pls?!) sd...
> ll..ts s my frst tm pstng =A0cmmnt n nytng nln. ws rdng mst f t cmmnts
pst=
d nd
> srprs srprs...ts gng t wrng drctn.
> 'm 18 nd jst frs t f frm 5...jst s y knw. Mlys s =A0btfl cntry bt ts nt
gn=
g t rmn
> sc fr lng. s w ll knw..ms s s mny rcs nd ts n f r mjr pls pnts. jst gt t
k=
nw smn
> frm trky nd =A0ws qt srprsd t knw tt Mlys cmprsd f s mny rcs nd rlgns.
> Jst lstn y...vn t ts pnt n tm,sm f my clsst nd lngst frnds r f ll srts f
r=
cs..nd
> mng s frnds w dsgr bt t wy ppl n Ms r sprtd by rc.My mly frnds dsgr wt t
w=
y ty v
> t ppr nd t tms.Lk,bsclly...t prblm ls wt t pltcns...ts tm t nt lk t crd
nd=
> clr.frgt t..w wll nvr vr d nywr f tr s n nty mngst s Mlysns.s stdnts..w
dn=
t btr
> bt rc.ts nly ltr n tt w bcm psnd wt t d f rc nd s n. C'mn ppl..y pst
=A0ng=
tv cmmnt
> r nd tn mt p wt frnds.Mks n sns.wn y lk t t smll pctr,y fnd tt tngs rn't
s=
bd bt
> ts t bg pctr tt stnks t g vn. Stp tryng t pnt t t flws f t mlys,cns r
ndns=
...ts n
> s. Tm t tk t trbl t mk =A0dffrnc fr t bttrmn f ts cntry.
>
> "wn t pwr f lv vrcms t lv f pwr,t wrld wll knw pc."-Jm ndrx.
> tnk bt t.nd t ll f y mlysns t tr...my sncr wll wss t c nd vryn f y crlss
f=
yr
> rc,rlgn r pnn.
> tk cr
>
> 6:55 PM, Jnry 27, 2008 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> T wy t cntry s bng gvrnd, t cnks n rcl lns r lrdy swng. t s nly =A0mttr
f =
tm b4
> ntr My69 wll ppn nd ts tm t rc rltns wll nvr b t sm gn...
>
> 3:33 PM, Jnry 28, 2008 =A0
> =A0gv pc =A0cnc...(wll y pls?!?!) sd...
> .. gt n d..wy dnt w pck nd snd c nd vry pltcn n Mlys t =A0n-mn's lnd. Tr
t=
y cn fgt
> nd try t clm w rgtflly wns t lnd.T wy Mlys s bng gvrnd..vrytng bt t
cntry =
s gng
> t crs jst lk n vrldd nd tdtd cmptr.
>
> 11:09 PM, Jnry 28, 2008 =A0
> =A0nnyms sd...
> Gys ftr lng rds f yr cmmnts! =A0v =A0dbt!d w r y gys rlly knw w ws w nd
wr=
r w cm
> frm?! mn MLYS!!!!!! ( m =A0Pr Mlyn)
> NT ND RD TS> N RT FLLNGS.
>
> bn ntrstng t rd sc fr-flwng cmmnts n t sbjct f t rgns f t Mlys. Wl w r n
t=
> sbjct, w mny f y v rd t bk nttld "Cntstng Mlynss - Mly dntty crss Bndrs"
d=
td by
> Tmty P. Brnrd pblsd by Sngpr nvrsty Prss?
> Wrttn by =A0Prfssr f Ntnl nvrsty f Sngpr. t rflcts t ntrplgsts vws tt tr
s=
n sc rc
> s t "Mlys" t bgn wt. f w fllw t rgnl mgrtn f t Strn Cns f 6,000yrs g, ty
m=
vd nt
> Twn, (nw t lsn), tn nt t Pllpns (nw t t) nd mvd nt Brn (4,500yrs g)
(Dyk).=
Ty ls
> splt nt Slws nd prgrssd nt Jw, nd Smtr. T fnl mgrtn ws t t Mlyn Pnnslr
3,0=
00yrs
> g. =A0sb-grp frm Brn ls mvd t Cmp n Vtnm t 4,500yrs g.
> ntrstngly, t Cmp dvnt grp mvd bck t prsnt dy Klntn. Tr r ls trcs f t Dng
S=
ng nd
> Bn mgrtn frm Vtnm nd Cmbd. T cnfs t ss, tr ws ls t Strn T mgrtn, frm wt
w =
knw s
> Pttn tdy. (s ls "rly Kngdms f t ndnsn rcplg nd t Mly Pnnslr")
> f crs, w ls v t Mnngkb's wc cm frm t dscndnts f lxndr t Grt nd =A0Wst
ndn =
Prncss.
> (Sjr Mly pg 1-3)
> S t mlln Dllr Qstn... s tr rlly =A0rc clld t "Mlys"?
> ll ntrplgsts D NT SM T TNK S. (strngly, ts nclds ll Mly Mlysn ntrplgsts
w =
r f t
> sm pnn.)
> Ntr d t "Mlys" w lv n t Wst Cst f Jr. Ty'd rtr b clld Jvns. Wt bt t wst
cs=
t Kd
> nbtnts w prfr t b knwn s "cns"? r t bns w smply wnt t b knwn s BNS. Try
cl=
lng
> Klbt =A0"Mly" nd s wt rspns y gt... y'll b s gld tt tr d-ntng dys r vr.
> n n rtcl n t Str, dtd: Dc 3rd 2006
> vlbl fr n-ln vwng t:
> ttp://tstr.cm.my/nws/stry.sp?fl=3D/2006/12/3/fcs/16212814&sc=3Dfcs
> n xcrp s rprdcd r blw:
> "T Mlys =96 tkn s n ggrgtn f ppl f dffrnt tnc bckgrnds bt w spk t sm
lngg =
r fmly f
> lnggs nd sr cmmn cltrl nd trdtnl ts =96 r ssntlly =A0nw rc, cmprd t t
Cns,=
ndns nd t
> rbs wt tr lng strs f qsts nd cnqsts.
>
> T Mly ntn, trfr, cvrs ppl f vrs tnc stck, ncldng Jvns, Bgs, Bwn, cns, T,
r=
ng sl,
> t ndgns ppl f Sb nd Srwk nd dscndnts f ndn Mslms w d mrrd lcl wmn.
> Bnt ts vrtns, wvr, tr s =A0cmmn stly cr tt s bnt n cngng t Mly prsn frm
ts=
prcvd
> ltrgc crctr t n tt s brv, bld nd rdy t tk n t wrld. "
> T dfntn f "Mly" s trfr smply =A0cllctn f ppl's w spk =A0smlr typ lngg.
Wt =
wt s mnt
> by =A0smlr typ lngg ds nt mn tt t wrds r smlr. ( ntv Klntns ntv spkr s n
c=
l wtsvr
> wt s bn ntv brtr s tlkng bt; f bt spk tr wn dlct) Lngsts wvr, cll ts t
"Lg=
-Typ"
> lngg, wr wrds r ddd n t t rt wrd t mk mnng nd gv tnss nd sc. Smw, t
ndnsns=
dsgr
> wt ts "Mly" clssfctn nd nsst nstd n bng clld "ndnsns" vn tg t mjrty f
"Mly=
s" v
> tr rts n prts f ndns. Ty rfs t b clld "Mly"=85. nyw y my dfn t.
> T wrtr fld t dntfy (prbbly ddn't knw), tt t "Mly" dfntn ls nclds, t Cmp,
D=
ng
> Sng, bnn, T Twns lsn nd t Plppn ts. =A0ls dd nt dntfy tt t "rng sl" r
(fr =
lck f
> bttr trm) x-frcns. f y try t cll ny n f r st Mlysn brtrs n "rng sl", ty
WL=
L BT Y
> P! =A0d t rpt ts bcs lmst ll Wst Mlysns mk t sm mstk wn w crss t St Cn
S. =
Wrs,
> smw, ty fl vn mr nsltd wn y cll tm "Mly". Smw, "krng jr" s ttrd blw tr
brt=
s f
> "Mly" ws =A0rlly bd wrd fr tm. 'm stll tryng t fgr ts n t.
> Wtc "Mlys n frc"; =A0Msm Ngr prdcd DVD. ls, t "Cmp Mlys" by t sm.
> Wt ts clssfctn, ty MST ls ncld t Pllpns, t Pp Nw Gnns, t strln brgns, s
wl=
l s t
> Plynsn brgns. Ts r f t strl Mlnsns w mgrtd t f frc 60,000yrs g.
>
> Gttng ntrstng? Rd n...
> "Mly" sld ls ncld t Twns sngr " M" w s lsn s r trb r t nscstrs f t
"Mlys".=
nd
> fnlly, y wll nd t dfn t Strn Cns (Strn Prvnc) s Mly ls, snc ty r frm t
sm =
stck
> 6,000yrs g.
> Try cllng t Bgs =A0"Mly". ntrstngly, t Bgs, w prdmnntly lv n Slws r nt
vn =
ndnsns.
> Ntr d ty fll nt t sm grp s t mgrtng Strn Cns f 6,000yrs g nr t strl
Mlnsn =
grp
> frm frc.
> Rdy fr ts?
> T Bgs r t crss-brd btwn t Mngln Cns nd t mrdng rb Prts. ntrstngly, t
Bgs, =
(jst
> lk tr rbc ncstrs) wr crr Prts n t Jr-R slnd rs. Nw t npw f Dng Kmbj ws
ppn=
td s t
> Frst Sltn f Slngr. Tt mks t ntr Slngr Sltnt prt rb, prt Cns! Try tlkng t
t=
Bgs
> Msm crtr nr Kkp n Jr. Kkp s lctd nr t mst st-wstrn tp f Jr. (D st f Pntn
K=
cl) =A0s
> mr tn wllng t xpnd n t Bgs rtg. By m lnc nd =A0cn tlk fr dys n nd. Lt's
nt=
vn gt
> nt t ng T, ng Jbt, ng Kstr, ng Lk, nd ng Lkr, w srd t sm fmly lst nm s t
t=
r spr
> fms "ng" fmly mmbr... ng L P. nd w ws s? Lgnd tlls s tt s s t Prncss f
=A0=
Mng
> Dynsty mprr w ws snt t mrry t Sltn f Mlcc. Wn't tt mk t ntr Mlcc Sltnt
dwn=
ln
> "Bb"? Snc t ldr sn f t cllpsd Mlccn Sltnt gt klld n Jr, (t crrnt Sltnt s
t=
dwnln
> f t tn, Bndr) t nly tr sn bcm t Sltn f Prk. D w s ny Cns-nss n Rj zln? s
=
=A0t
> dscndnt f ng L P? Bt wt =A0mnt....
>
> Tt's wt lgnd sys. Lt's lk t t prf. T sld vdnc. Tr s =A0wll nxt t t Zng
=A0=
Tmpl n
> Mlcc wc s sppsd t b t wll blt by t Sltn f Mlcc fr ng L P. ccrdng t lgnd,
n=
yn w
> drnks f t sll r-vst Mlcc bfr ty d. mmm smlls lk =A0rmntc fry tl lrdy. Bt
l=
t's lk t
> w ng L P ctlly s. Wc Mng mprr ws s =A0dgtr t? S =A0gt nt rsrcng t ntr
lst =
f Mng
> mprrs. Gss wt? Nt =A0sngl Mng mprr's lst nm bgns wt ng. n fct, ll tr lst
n=
ms bgn
> wt Tz (prnncd C). S w s ng L P? n xtr Cncbn? =A0Spr ndmdn? W knws? Bt n
tn=
g fr
> crtn, s tt s ws n dgtr f ny f t Mng mprrs. Gn s t rmntc ntn f t Sltn f
Mlc=
c
> mrryng n xtc Cns Prncss. Srry gys, t Sltn mrrd n ndntfd Cns cmmnr.
> Nxt qstn. f t Bb's r prt Mly, wy v ty bn mrgnlzd by NT BNG BMPTR? Wc prt
f=
"Mly"
> r ty nt? Wtvr t nswr, wy tn r t Prtgs f Mlcc BMPTR? Dd ty nt cm 100yrs
FTR=
t
> rrvl f t frst Bb's? Prmswr fndd Mlcc n 1411. T Prtgs cm n 1511, nd t Dtc
n=
t
> 1600's. Strngly, t Bb's wr n fct nc clssfd =A0Bmptr, bt sm Prm Mnstr
dcrd =
tt ty wr
> t b strngly "dclssfd" n t 1960's. WY? w cn =A0"ntv sn f t sl" dgnrt nt n
"=
n-sn"? T
> nw clssfctn s "pndtng" mnng =A0mgrnt t dscrb t Bb's nd Nynys. Wt =A0mnt,
s=
n't VRYN n
> t Pnnslr =A0mgrnt t bgn wt? w cn t gvrnmnt dscrmnt? Ds t Mlysn Gvrnmnt v
m=
ns?
> T Sltn f Klntn d smlr rts t t Pttn Kngdm mkng m f T rgn. nd wt s ts "cff
t=
bl bk"
> by t Sltn f Prls clmng t b t drct dscndnt f t prpt Mmmd? Smw w s Prf K
Ky =
Km's
> sgntr nm n t bk. 'll py gd mny t wn =A0cpy f t myslf. nyn s =A0spr?
> n prsng ts trd, nd vng lkd t t stry f Prpt Mmmd (BTW, rl nm md) w cldn't
f=
gr t
> wc dscndnt ln T Sltn f Prls ws. Prps t ws by t nm Syd, wc trnscndd. Tn w
t=
rd t
> lct wc dwnln dd t Sltn dscnd frm f t 13 ffcl Wvs f Prpt Mmmd nmd n t ly
Kr=
n? r
> ws t Sltn f Prls =A0dscndnt frm t tr 23 nn-wvs? f t 13 ffcl Wvs wr (t
lst =
knwn) 3
> srl wmn. Tn y sld cm t ts nstnt rvltn, sn't Prpt Mmmd n srl mslf? Ys, t
ns=
wr s
> clr. ll dscndnts f Mss r srl. n fct, t ly Krn tcs tt Mss ws t Frst Mslm.
T=
s
> cnfrmng ll t dscndnts f Mss t b srl, ncldng Jss nd Prpt Mmmd. Bt snc ts
s =
nt
> Rlgs r =A0Tlgcl dscssn, lt's mv n t =A0mr ntrplgcl pprc.
> S, w mny f y v mt wt t rng sl's (Mlysn Ntvs)? T mr nrtrn y g, t mr frcn
ty=
lk.
> Wy r ty clld Ngrt's? t s =A0Spns wrd, frm wc drctly trnslts "mn Ngrs". T
m=
r strn y
> g, t mr "ndnsn" ty lk. nd t ns w lv t Cmrn glnds knd lk 50-50. Y cn s t
Bt=
k t
> Tmn Ngr, w rlly lk lk dd Mrpy t =A0crtn dgr. r t Ngrts w lv t t T brdr
nr =
Tmnggr
> Lk (nrt Prk). T M Mr n Crr slnd lk lmst lk t Jkns n nd Rmpn. lf frcn, lf
n=
dnsn.
> Strngly t ntvs n Brn ll lk rtr Cns n trms f ftrs nd fcl crctrstcs spclly
t=
Klbts
> n Br.
> By dfntn, (ts s spr y-pnng) tr ws =A0nd-Mly mpr n Kd. Ys, =A0sd rgt=85 T
M=
lys wr nd
> (jst lk t gntl Blns f tdy). t ws knwn by ts' ld nm, Lngksk. Tdy knwn s
Lmb=
Bjng.
> Ts nd-Mly mpr ws 2,000yrs ld. Pr-dtng Brrbdr ND ngkr Wtt. W cm bt rnd
500-=
600yrs
> ltr. Lmb Bjng ws T mgty trdng mpr, nd ts bggst nflnc ws by t ndns w wr r
t=
lp
> strt t. By dfntn, ts sld mk t ndns BMPTRS t snc ty wr r 2,000yrs g! Wy r
t=
y
> mrgnlzd?
> T Mlysn Gvrnmnt nw s =A0srs cs f lzmr's. Wy? Smply bcs, ty wld ccrd t
nxt =
ndnsn w
> tmrrw swms crss t Strts f Mlcc nd bstw pn m wt t pprntly "prstgs ttl" f
t =
Bmptr
> stts lngsd trs w mply v nbtd ts lnd fr ndrds f cntrs. (prstgs, t lst
prcvd=
by
> Mlys) Ty ls v =A0strng syng clld "Ktnn Mly" wc ltrlly trnslts nt "T
Lrdsp =
f Mlys"
> T Mlys stll cnnt dntfy tll ts dy "w" r "wt" t Mlys v "Lrdsp" vr. nd ty
clb=
rt t
> gllntly nd trmpntly by wvng t Krs (wvy knf wc s nd rgns n Brrbdr. Gnsn s
s=
n
> brndsng t Krs n =A0bss-rlf sclptr.) drng pblc mtngs vr Ntnl TV mc lk
=A0Pg=
n Wcc
> Crmny n Strds. Lt's ll wt fr tt ffcl prss rls t s w t "Mlys" v Lrdsp vr,
s=
ll w?
>
> f t 3 bks lstd, "Cntstng Mlynss" (bt S$32 fr sft cvr) s "bnnd" n Mlys; y
w=
ll nd
> t "smggl" t nt Mlys; fr vry bvs rsns.... :( r rd t n Sngpr f y dn't fl
lk =
brkng
> t lw. ncdntlly, t Prfssr (tr) ws nvtd t spk n ts vry sbjct crc 2 yrs g,
n =
KL,
> nvtd by t MBRS. Y cn mgn t "cs" ts smnr crtd... :( Frtntly t FR ws nt
clld=
n.
> T tr, "Kngdms f t ndnsn rcplg, nd t Mly Pnnslr" (bt RM84) r pnly sld t
ll =
ldng
> bksps; Knkny, MP, Brdrs, Pplr, Tms, tc. Y sld b bl t fnd =A0fr bt f wt
'v =
bn qtng
> n ts bk t, bt mnd y, t s xtrmly vy rdng mtrl, nd y wll fnd yrslf
strgglng =
trg t
> ntl 200+ pgs. t s xtrmly tcncl n ntr. Myb tt's wy t sn't bn bnnd
(yt)=85cz=
r trts
> cldn't mk d r tl f t? (FY, f =A0wrn't dng rsrc fr my flm, =A0wldn't v rd
t=
n ts
> ntrty)
> T "Sjr Mly" (bt RM 50) wvr, s frly vlbl t t nvrsty Mly bksp. =A0v bt t
ngl=
s nd Ryl
> Mly vrsn pblsd by MBRS. ltrntvly, y cld try rdng t Jw (rbc Scrpt) vrsn f
y=
r
> trly =A0sckr fr nmgnbl pn...... (my fl lk crcmcsn)
> Tr r ctlly mny srcs fr ts rgns f Mlys fndngs. ny ldr Plppn Msm Jrnl ls
crr=
s ts
> mgrtn strs. Ts mgrtn s ls n dsply t t Plppns Ntnl Msm n Lzn. wvr, ty nd
wt=
t t,
> nd nly brfly mntn tt t mgrtn cntnd t ndns nd Mlys, bt flly cknwldg tt ll
P=
lppns
> cm frm Twn. nd bfr Twn, Cn. Tr s ntr bk (prt f =A0srs) clld t "rcplg
Srs" =
ndrsd by
> Tn Mtr nd Mrn Mmmd, wc stts t vry sm tng rgt t t ntrdctn n pg n. "=85 tt
t=
Mlys
> mgrtd t f Strn Cn sm 6,000yrs g=85". =A0blv t s clld t "Pr-stry f Mlys"
rd=
Cvr, bt
> RM99 fnd n (mstly) MP. Ty ls crry "Pr-stry f ndns" by t sm trs fr t sm
prc=
..
> t s mst ntrstng t nt tt t Mlysn Msm ffcls gllntly nvntd brnd nw nrd-f
trms=
sc s
> "Prt-Mly" nd "Dtr-Mly", t rplc t ccptd Scntfc Trm, strl-Mlnsns (frcn
dscnt=
) nd
> strnsns (Cns Dscnt, r Mngld t b prcs) n kpng n ln wt crtng ts nw "Mly"
trm=
... Ty
> ls crtd t nw trm clld t Mly-Plynsn. (Wc Mly xsts n t Plynsn slnds?) Myb
ty=
wr
> jst tryng t b "Ptrtc" nd "Ntnlstc"=85 w knws=85? ftr ll, w ls nvntd t
trm,=
"Mlysn
> Tm". Wl t rst f t wrld clls t "Trdy" nd "Lt". t's qt n mbrrssmnt
ctlly=85.=
Sngprns
> crssng t brdr r skd t st tr wtcs bck by bt =A0100yrs, t djst t "Mlysn
Tm"=
=85
> n =A0ntsll, t Brts Clnl Mstrs, w, fr lck f =A0bttr dscrptn, ndd
=A0"blnkt"=
ctgry fr s
> f clssfctn, sd t trm "Mly".
> T nly tr lgcl xplntn, wc =A0v rd, ws tt "Mly" cm s =A0drvtv f "mly", wr
t =
Lngksk, r
> Lmb Bjng tdy ws wr t ndns wr dscrbng t lcls s "Ml" wc mns "ll Ppl" n
Tml. =
Ts md
> prfct sns s t fcl pnt t tt tm ws t Gnng Jr, nd t ntr Pnnslr d =A0"Mntn
Rng=
" "Bnjrn
> Ttwngs", s w cll t.
> T Mndrn nd Cntns ccrtly mntn t ccrt prnnctn f "Ml Rn" nd "Ml Yn"
rspctvly =
tll ts
> vry dy. Wr "rn" nd "yn" bt mn "ppls".
> ntrstngly, "Kdr" nd "Kdr", nd nd Snskrt wrds ccrtly dscrb "Kd" f tdy. Ty
b=
t mn
> "frtl Lnd fr Rc cltvtn. gn, =A0nm gvn by t ndns 2,000yrs g drng t "Gldn
nd=
r" fr
> drtn f 1,500yrs.
> t ws drng ts "Gldn nd r" tt t nw trm wc t nd Mly ldrs ls dptd t ttls,
"Slt=
n" nd
> "Rj". T Mly Rylty wr nd t tt tm, s ll f Stst s ws ndr strng ndn nflnc,
ncl=
dng
> Brrbdr, nd ngkr Wtt. Bl tdy stll prctcs dvt nd Blfs. T snk mlt wrn by t
Sl=
tns f
> tdy, T Ryl Ds, nd vn t "Plmn" fr wddngs r tll-tl sgns f ts strng ndn
nflnc=
s. S,
> t ws NT Prmswr w ws t frst Sltn n Mly. Sltng xstd pprxmtly 1,500yrs n Kd
b=
fr =A0st
> ft n t Pnnslr drng t "Gldn nd r" f Mlys. nd ty wr ll nd.
>
> "Prstry f Mlys" ls tlks bt t "Lst Kngdm" f t "C-T" wr t lcl Mly Kngdm wr
B=
ddsts.
> T rst f t "Mlys" wr nmstc Pgns.
> Bt y my sy, "Sjr Mly" clls t "Mly"? Ys, t ds. Rd t gn; s t tryng t dscrb
t=
> 200-dd ppltn mlt nr Plmbng by t nm "Mly"?(Ggl rt wll sw ts vllg).
>
> By tt sm dfntn, tn, t cns sld b cnsdrd =A0"rc". S sld t Bgs nd t Btks, t
b=
fr. rng
> c, rng Bgs, rng Lt, rng Mly nw mn t sm=85 dscrptns f tnc trbs, t bst. S
sm=
pprntly
> Ptrtc prn dcdd t pgrd t Mlys frm rng Mly (Mly Ppl) t Bngs Mly (Mly Rc)
Gd =
jb n
> lpng prptt t cnfsn. nd snc t "Mlys" f tdy r nt ll dscndnts f t "Mly"
kmpng=
n Jmb
> (f =A0rmmbr crrctly), t trm Mly s bn wrngly trmd. Frm Dy n. Myb ts s wy
t =
Jrns
> stll nsst n cllng tmslvs tr Bgs, r Jvns tl tdy (xcpt wn t cms t rcvng
Gvrn=
mnt
> ndts). S d t cns n t Wst cst f Kd & Prls nd t Klntns nsst tt ty cm frm
Cmp=
,
> Vtnm.
> Mrvr, t fct tt t frst 3 pgs f "Sjr Mly" clm tt "Mly" cms frm lxndr t Grt
n=
d t
> Wst ndn Prncss dsn't lp. Mr mprtntly, t ws wrttn n 1623. By tn, t ndns d
b=
n
> cllng t lcls "Ml" fr 1,500 yrs lrdy. S t nm stck=85.
> nd wt t Sjr Mly (T Mly nnls n pg 1-3) nmng t grndsn f skndr Zlkrnn, nd t
W=
st ndn
> Prncss frmng t Mnngkb. Wnvr =A0Mly s skd bt t, =A0slly sys t s "Krt"
(blls=
t), bt ll
> Mlyn bsd strns nsst n sng Sjr Mly s T mn rfrnc bk fr wc "Mly" stry s bsd
p=
n. T
> nly tr bks r "Ms Mly", "kyt Mrng Mwngs", "kyt Ps", "kyt Rj-Rj Sk" nd
"kyt =
ng T"
> mng trs; wc smtms brngs p lng nd "td" dscssns.
> ntrstng t nt s n f t grt "Mly" wrtrs s clld Mnsy bdll; w pnnd "kyt bdll"
=
=A0ws n
> ndn Mslm. Lt's r-rd tt lttl bt. =A0ws n ndn Mslm. w cn n ndn cng s rc t
b =
=A0Mly? cn
> cng s srt, s cr, s rlgn nd vn s ndrwr, bt w cn nyn cng s rc? Ts mst b T
Nw=
Trck
> f t Cntry, wc vn Dvd Cpprfld wll py lts f mny t wtc (nd prps lrn).
>
> "Mystrs Rc Cngng Trck"- crtd by T Mlysn Gvrnmnt.
> Stll, Mlysns r stll nly scnd t t Jws (w by t wy, r t nly tr ppl n t wrld
w=
r
> dfnd by =A0rlgn) S prps Dvd Cpprfld s yt t lrn =A0fw trcks n t mss dcptn
s=
klls f t
> Mlysn Gvrnmnt?
> Mlys Bl...
>
> =A0fnd ts strng.
> =A0ls fnd, tt t s strng tt t "Ctt's" (ndn+Mly) f Mlcc r ctgrzd s Bmptr,
wl=
tr Bb
> brtrs r nt. Wy? Bt xstd drng t Prmswr dys. Wc prt f t "Mly" sd f t Bb's
s =
nt gd
> ng fr Bmptr clssfctn? R-nstt tm. Ty sd t b Bmptr pr 1960's nywy.
>
> nstd f "Mly", =A0blv tt "Mplnd" (crc 1963) wld v bn t clsst n ccrtly
tryng=
t dscrb
> t Mlys. wvr, gng by tt dfntn, t sld mst ccrtly b
"MplndTCnDVtWnGrkCmfrc". =
nd t s
> bcs f ts; vn r nvrsty Mly ntrplgy prfssrs cnnt lk t y n t y nd trtflly
sy =
tt t
> wrd "Mly" tcnclly nd ccrtly dfns =A0rc.
> Ts s mst nfrtnt.
>
> S, n =A0ntsll, t "Mlys" (ntrplgsts wll dsgr wt ts "rc" dfntn) r TRLY S
!!!=
Fr nc t
> Trsm Mnstry gt t rgt=85.
> W sld stp cllng ts cntry "Tn Mly" nstd cll t, "Tn Trly s"
> Y mst ndrstnd nw, wy =A0ws "tckld pnk" wn =A0fnd t tt t Vst Mlys slgn fr
2=
007 ws
> "Trly s". Ty r s crrct... (vn tg ty mssd t Grc, nd frc)
> BTW, t nm MN sld b cngd t TN t nw ffcl crnym fr "ntd Trly s Ntnl rgnztn"
.=
ftr
> ll, ty strtd t s =A0Bgs clb n Jr nywy=85.
> =A0tld y ll tt =A0t rc clssfctns=85. Ts s s dprssng. vn mr dprssng s tt
t =
"mlys" r nt
> vn =A0rc; nt snc dy n.
>
> "Trly s Bl"
>
> "N pnt fgtng fr Ntng"
>
> My ll Swt Blss ll f s!
>
> 11:00 M, Fbrry 12, 2008 =A0
> =A0Jl R sd...
> Pc t ll ts tt rds ts cmmnt.
> Bldy mtr frkng ll...s mc s w ll sld knw bt t 13 My Rt 1969...sldn't w
try =
nd lrn
> frm t nstd f LWYS brngng t p. =A0mn, s =A0stdnt n n ntrntnl scl, =A0nvr
rl=
ly flt ny
> rcl r scl dscrmntn ntl rcntly.
> Fr s lng =A0flt tt my cntry ws jst ntr brng cntry tt jst nvly wvs flgs
rnd=
nd nvts
> cntrs fr 'pc vsts'. t ws ntl rcntly =A0strtd t bcm wr f ll ts.
> nstly, =A0bg f y, wy cn't w jst lrn frm ts. Fr nstnc, =A0spnd my tm wt
frg=
nrs ll t
> tm, nd ppl lwys cmmnt n m, "t wld sn grl", "t bdk yng tk spn",
=A0mn...nt =
nly d w
> fl rcst twrds t rcs n r cntry [r s vrybdy sys] bt w fl rcst twrds trs n
df=
frnt
> cntrs.
> =A0m s frd f grwng p nw n ts cntry tt =A0cn't vn cll m ny mr. Wrn't w ll
t=
gt tt
> rgrdlss f r skn clr wt ll v t sm bld, t sm bns, t sm strctr. Stp wt ll t
r=
cl
> cmmnts.
>
> W r t sm.
>
> Jl.
>
> 10:33 PM, Mrc 30, 2008 =A0
>
> >CKinSF
>
> also known as chow-kow-sick-f=FB=E7kk(cksf)
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