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Re: A monster from the pages of a Grimm tale

by Craig Stevens <craig_stevens@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 4, 2008 at 07:17 PM

On Sun, 4 May 2008 23:25:09 +1200, <fvk6eh$oj3$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Tilly"
<femail@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>Behind all the words, the turning over of facts, the analysis, the
frantic 
>speculation (did the wife know?) and the tormented search for meanings
(how 
>could this happen?), lies a central image: a woman and her three children

>buried alive, toothless, hunchbacked, pale-skinned, talking in their own 
>mumbling language, just beneath the surface of everyday life for 24
years.
>
>It is like a Grimm fairytale, like an instant, terrifying myth of
monsters 
>and their captives and an image of what humanity is capable of. At the
same 
>time it is a tender, damaged little family clinging together, watching TV

>and drawing pictures of the sun they had never seen in their plumbed and 
>well-lit dungeon in small-town Austria.
>
>The case of Josef Fritzl is beyond the wilder shores of our comprehension

>and yet it fits with an unsettling neatness to a whole set of domestic 
>stereotypes. 

Josef Fritzl is Jewish

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?p=2454756
the guy was a jewish Zionist.....take a look at what he had on his walls.

as soon as this gets revealed the jewish media will drop it like a hot
potato. Why would this
"Nazi" have Stars of David plastered on his walls?

he is not austrian, he is jewish

Link to picture
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3677/proofjosffisajewishcrimrt2.jpg

CNN still has pic on their website..they will remove that quite soon 
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/04/28/austria.cellar/index.html#cnnSTCVideo-
'House of horror' children never saw daylight

>It reads both like a work of ****ography that brings together 
>every imaginable act of cruelty and degradation, and also like a
grotesque 
>cartoon strip of everyday life.
>
>So Fritzl is an electrical engineer with well-polished shoes and a sense
of 
>punctiliousness and respectability, who apparently was a 'despot' in his 
>upstairs home, the patriarch with a tyrannical sense of the roles of men
and 
>women. Like many men, he had the equivalent of a garden shed where he
could 
>retreat and practise his hobby - except in his case the hobby was rape,
was 
>imprisonment, was fathering seven children by his daughter, was throwing
the 
>child who died into the incinerator like a piece of garbage, was turning
his 
>own children into the subjects of some ghastly experiment, was becoming
the 
>concentration camp guard of his self-built basement world.
>
>And though his crime was perverse, it was also bizarrely bureaucratic. He

>applied for, and received, a grant for his underground prison; the
building 
>was well planned and expertly carried out; the fridge was stocked with
food. 
>Indeed, he is apparently aggrieved that people might think his prisoners 
>could have died when he was on one of his extended *** tourism holidays, 
>insisting that he had always planned ahead. The human mind has an 
>extraordinary ability to defend itself against itself and protect itself 
>from self-knowledge and guilt. Like the camp guards who could go home at 
>night to listen to Mozart, cry at poetry and play with their children, it
is 
>perfectly possible that Fritzl feels quite self-justified.
>
>But it's a concentration camp in suburbia, where epic horror meets 
>familiarity. Many women have no idea what their husbands get up to in
their 
>garden sheds or down in the cellar with their tools or their developing 
>fluids. Indeed, many marriages are based on respecting the privacy of the

>spouse and allowing them their own space. Don't ask, don't nag, it's his 
>thing. Fritzl insisted on being undisturbed and apparently his wife
obeyed 
>him. The question being asked all round the world is, how could she not
have 
>known? But this is the same question asked about wives who don't have any

>suspicions about their husband's infidelities and about Sonia Sutcliffe
of 
>her murderous husband, or Primrose ****pman of hers. They don't know
because 
>it's hidden, and they don't know because they don't want to know, and
they 
>don't know because they have pushed the knowledge deep inside, and their 
>world is arranged around that denial.
>
>Then there's the stereotype of the father-daughter relation****p. Fritzl 
>gives new meaning to the term 'control freak'. Elisabeth was only 11 when
he 
>started to abuse her, but it wasn't until she was 18 and an adult that he

>put her in the literal prison, where he treated her both like his
***-slave 
>and his alternative wife and mother to his second family. He has
apparently 
>said that he locked her up because he was worried that she would take
drugs 
>and go to the bad: in this crazed version, he becomes the stern but 
>protective father, saving his wayward child from the dangers of life
beyond 
>the family. It's a monstrous mirror image of another famous Austrian
father, 
>Captain von Trapp, with his seven children and his whistle to keep them
in 
>order. And, for many, Fritzl is like a nightmare symbol of Austria
itself, a 
>country that has pushed its Nazi past underground and represented itself
as 
>a victim rather than a perpetrator.

Josef Fritzl is Jewish

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?p=2454756
the guy was a jewish Zionist.....take a look at what he had on his walls.

as soon as this gets revealed the jewish media will drop it like a hot
potato. Why would this
"Nazi" have Stars of David plastered on his walls?

he is not austrian, he is jewish

Link to picture
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3677/proofjosffisajewishcrimrt2.jpg

CNN still has pic on their website..they will remove that quite soon 
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/04/28/austria.cellar/index.html#cnnSTCVideo-
'House of horror' children never saw daylight

>The fairytale horror is overlaid with provincial order and dull domestic 
>cliché. Home is an ugly grey house with lodgers and an obedient wife; the

>dungeon guarded by a monster was built on grant money and had running
water, 
>tiles and sofas; the pervert maintained his air of respectability
throughout 
>and has shown a self-righteous indignation at some of the allegations.
>
>Oscar Wilde's Dorian Gray put the ****trait of his moral disintegration
into 
>an attic. Perhaps Fritzl's fearsomely efficient compartmentalisation of
his 
>life (upstairs and downstairs, open and hidden, propriety and
unimaginable 
>depravity) allowed him to avoid looking at the self he has become, a man
who 
>will haunt his country for decades. The question of whether Fritzl's wife

>knew dwindles next to the question of whether Fritzl himself knew what
type 
>of loathsome thing he had become.
>
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/04/austria.internationalcrime
>
>--?
>femail1583@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 




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Re: A monster from the pages of a Grimm tale
Craig Stevens <craig_s  2008-05-04 19:17:46 

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