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> > captain. wrote:
> >> "Mikhail Medved" <mikhail_b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>"Mikhail Medved" <mikhail_b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>On Feb 5, 11:15 pm, "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>>>On Feb 1, 4:19 am, "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>>>>On Jan 30, 6:35 pm, "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>>>>>Depp to Make Film About Poisoned Ex-Spy
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> >>>>>>Lately, American agitprop jumped on the russophobic bandwagon big
> >>>>>>time. This summer it released at least 2 russophobic movies:
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> >>>>>>1. Charlie Wilson's War.
> >>>>>>2. The Golden Compass
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> >>>>>>The latter is "a fairy tale for school-kids", teaching them what
> >>>>>>language "the evil" speaks and how "good guys" are dealing with
thos=
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> >>>>>>speaking that evil Russian language (killing all on the spot, of
> >>>>>>course, what else).
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> >>>>>>And don't tell me about "freedom of speech" - I am not buying this
> >>>>>>****.
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> >>>>>huh? are you claiming that the enemies in the golden compass speak
> >>>>>russian?
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> >>>>I am not "claiming" anything. Unfortunately, I am speaking the
truth.
> >>>>Yes, they speak Russian, even though with Brighton Beach accent. I
> >>>>mean the guys wearing fur hats, speaking "unknown language", for
which=
> >>>>American agitprop supplied the subtitles.
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> >>>>Yes, cap'n, American agitprop is worse than you imagined.
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> >>>isn't the author of the golden compass a brit?
>
> >> I have no idea. And I don't know who made the "bad guys" torturing
> >> children speak Russian - the book author or the movie producer.
Either
> >> way, it's totally unwarranted by the plot and hits you really
> >> unexpectedy (if you understand the language).
>
> >>>also, a search for "golden compass" + anti-russian and "golden
compass"=
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> >>>russian turned up very little.
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> >> I am used to think for myself, not rely on others' opinions. Here's
> >> the fact: in a fairy tale, the baddest guys, torturing children,
speak
> >> Russian, even though the whole plot supposedly takes place in some
> >> parallel world. Then the good guys wipe out the baddest Russian-
> >> speaking guys.
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> >> How would you qualify such a movie: a pro-Russian, an anti-Russian,
or
> >> neutral?
>
> >> -certainly sounds anti-russian to me. it's pretty ****ed up.
>
> > What do you mean "****ed up"? Nazism is a cornerstone of WASP civil
> > culture. This movie was intended in first turn of conditioning
children =
to
> > subconciously regard the Russians as subhuman beasts - and it
perfectly
> > accomplishes the task.
>
> > What is interesting is when Russians stop to fool around and start to
> > condition their children for properly counter action to an ugly
bestiali=
ty
> > of the WASPs.
>
> > VM.
>
> don't be so cynical. the average joe has nothing against russians. you
spe=
nd
> too much time in SCB.
>
> i hear that the movie bombed anyhow. all of the religo-nuts convinced
peop=
le
> to avoid it. i'm going to have to see it myself now so that i can
personal=
ly
> judge how russophobic it truly is. why has there been no outcry? =A0the
fi=
rst
> that i have heard of it was from you.
>
> this link has appeared since the last time i
checked:http://02varvara.word=
press.com/2008/02/09/the-golden-compass-must-be-...
>
> here's an excerpt:
>
> "According to the book, amongst the allies of the church, and by that it
> means the enemy of the "common good", are a people called Tartars who
live=
> in Siberia. Moreover, the book divides these people into those living in
> "Siberia" and a place called "Moskoviya". However, in the film they are
no=
t
> differentiated, and all the infamous "Tartars" who fight against reason
an=
d
> oppose good people speak Russian.
>
Yep. I have always thought that Tatars would make a perfect object of
hate for the American movie and mass media. They are all American
bigotry stereotypes and fears rolled into one:
- Russian citizens
- Muslims
- many have Chinese-looking faces
- eat raw meat Tartare
The kind Americans, PETA and West Europeans love to hate. Can we
somehow tie them to Serbs as well?
>
> What we see before us is an extremely obvious example of frank
anti-Orthod=
ox
> and Russophobic propaganda being spread throughout the Western world. It
> exceeds in enormity the scene with the drunken astronaut in Armageddon.
We=
> should show these scenes to our schoolchildren, to warn them abut how
> anti-Russian black propaganda is done in the contem****ary Western
world."-=
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