On Feb 13, 3:51=A0pm, Vladimir Makarenko <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Henry Alminas wrote:
> > Vladimir Makarenko wrote:
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> >> Henry Alminas wrote:
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> >>>>> On Feb 8, 4:40 am, "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 6:35 pm, "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:=
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> >>>>>>>>>>> Depp to Make Film About Poisoned Ex-Spy
>
> >>>>>>>>> Lately, American agitprop jumped on the russophobic bandwagon
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g
> >>>>>>>>> time. This summer it released at least 2 russophobic movies:
> >>>>>>>>> 1. Charlie Wilson's War.
> >>>>>>>>> 2. The Golden Compass
> >>>>>>>>> The latter is "a fairy tale for school-kids", teaching them
what=
> >>>>>>>>> language "the evil" speaks and how "good guys" are dealing
with
> >>>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>> speaking that evil Russian language (killing all on the spot,
of=
> >>>>>>>>> course, what else).
> >>>>>>>>> And don't tell me about "freedom of speech" - I am not buying
th=
is
> >>>>>>>>> ****.
>
> >>>>>>>> huh? are you claiming that the enemies in the golden compass
spea=
k
> >>>>>>>> russian?
>
> >>>>>>> I am not "claiming" anything. Unfortunately, I am speaking the
> >>>>>>> truth.
> >>>>>>> Yes, they speak Russian, even though with Brighton Beach accent.
I=
> >>>>>>> mean the guys wearing fur hats, speaking "unknown language", for
> >>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>> American agitprop supplied the subtitles.
> >>>>>>> Yes, cap'n, American agitprop is worse than you imagined.
>
> >>>>>> isn't the author of the golden compass a brit?
>
> >>>>> I have no idea. And I don't know who made the "bad guys" torturing
> >>>>> children speak Russian - the book author or the movie producer.
Eith=
er
> >>>>> way, it's totally unwarranted by the plot and hits you really
> >>>>> unexpectedy (if you understand the language).
>
> >>>>>> also, a search for "golden compass" + anti-russian and "golden
> >>>>>> compass" +
> >>>>>> russian turned up very little.
>
> >>>>> I am used to think for myself, not rely on others' opinions.
Here's
> >>>>> the fact: in a fairy tale, the baddest guys, torturing children,
spe=
ak
> >>>>> Russian, even though the whole plot supposedly takes place in some
> >>>>> parallel world. Then the good guys wipe out the baddest Russian-
> >>>>> speaking guys.
>
> >>>>> How would you qualify such a movie: a pro-Russian, an
anti-Russian, =
or
> >>>>> neutral?
>
> >>>>> -certainly sounds anti-russian to me. it's pretty ****ed up.
>
> >>>> What do you mean "****ed up"? Nazism is a cornerstone of WASP civil
> >>>> culture. This movie was intended in first turn of conditioning
> >>>> children to
> >>>> subconciously regard the Russians as subhuman beasts - and it
perfect=
ly
> >>>> accomplishes the task.
>
> >>>> What is interesting is when Russians stop to fool around and start
to=
> >>>> condition their children for properly counter action to an ugly
> >>>> bestiality
> >>>> of the WASPs.
>
> >>>> VM.
>
> >>> I am not a movie fan and certainly
> >>> not of children's movies. =A0Thus I
> >>> have not seen this movie though I
> >>> have heard the name some place
> >>> or other.
>
> >>> Your fulminations on the matter
> >>> are totally insane Vlad - surely
> >>> even you must recognize that -
> >>> in your saner moments. =A0I gather
> >>> that there are some "bad guys"
> >>> involved in the movie and - they
> >>> speak Russian. =A0At least so you claim.
>
> >>> Now - in that this is a children's
> >>> movie - presumably aimed at an
> >>> American audience - just how the
> >>> hell would the children know that
> >>> the "bad guys" *are* speaking
> >>> Russian? =A0Whatever your ego may
> >>> tell you Russian is essentially
> >>> unknown in the US.
>
> >>> I imagine that they had to have the
> >>> "bad guys" speak something or
> >>> other - and something foreign. So tell
> >>> =A0me - which language should the movie
> >>> =A0makers have used? =A0The language of
> >>> some country that you disapprove of
> >>> =A0- or should the =A0actors have made random
> >>> =A0noises?
>
> >>> Best - - Henry
>
> >> =A0 =A0 First - this movie is a part of something bigger than just "a
m=
ovie".
> >> It is a screen version of a particular philosopical doctrine which
call=
s
> >> itself active "atheism" but indeed is nothing better than its radical
> >> religious counterpart. It is a proud so called gnostic or more
narrowly=
> >> "manicheism": world is divided in absolute Good and Evil. There is a
> >> world of "splendid blond beasts" and the rest doesn't really
> >> belong to mankind and is either evil s*** or peaceful retards to be
> >> used. Sound familiar?
>
> >> =A0 =A0 Secondly as you probably already read from "captain" provided
l=
ink
> >> that
> >> the ****traying of Russians as evil subhuman animals wasn't invented
by
> >> the movie director - it was borrowed from the book *for children*.
Movi=
e
> >> just didn't allocated enough time to go in all the details the book
arm=
s
> >> the young readers with to become a 24 karate Nazi.
> >> =A0 =A0 And the third - would it be just occasional occurrence of
such
> >> presentation of Russians - nobody would pay attention and most would
> >> probably just giggle. That however not the case: the WASP culture
> >> methodically and with determination ****trays Russians as evil
subhumans=
> >> which have to be exterminated to save "the splendid blond beasts".
> >> One of January issues of Time magazine inquired what is a defaut
> >> ethnicity of a s***bag character in Hollywood movies - shall I tell
you=
> >> the answer? =A0 =A0 I guess some in Baltics would appreciate such
attit=
ude
> >> but I am afaraid
> >> there are enough many sober thinking people there to figure out whose
> >> pot will start to boil first if the temperature would get out of
hand.
> >> Besides, in the end of the day the best presentation the Balts may
hope=
> >> is one of sheepish retards cheering a kind new master.
>
> >> =A0 =A0 Anyway the situation as it is compels Russians to fight back
in=
> >> any way
> >> they find appropriate.
> >> VM.
>
> > You are indeed insane Vlad!!
>
> > Are you talking about exterminating the Balts?
> > There are certainly enough posts about that fond
> > russkie hope in a number of blogs - not to mention
> > some russkie "parliamentarians" who have trumpeted
> > that notion and one who has written a book just
> > =A0salivating at that possibility? All that because
> > of a goofy kiddy movie?
>
> > You are insane - get help!!
>
> > Best - - Henry
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 As you like nightmarish dreams about bad Rooskies armies
-=
here is a
> bit of scenario written by Paul Wolfowitz, who is a friend of Cheney who
> is a friend of Adamkus, suggesting engaging Russia militarily - what do
> you think is his convinient battle field of choice? - CORRECT -
> Lithuania - to become an eye of the firestorm involving:
>
> 24 NATO divisions
>
> 70 fighters squadrons
>
> 6 aircraft carrier battle groups (that part of Wolfowitz plan I do not
> understand - there is not enough room in Baltic Sea for that, probably
> there is not enough room in the whole Atlantic).
>
> What is there to be left of Lithuania Wolfowitz' memo does not
elaborate.
>
> See detailed references and story in "Where the right went wrong" P.
> Buchanan.
>
> So remind me who is insane? Hah.
24 divisions seems to be too little for a world war? For carrier
groups, I think Wolfowitz's idea was that they are present in Europe -
planes can start from Mediterranean or from seas around Brittain.
About Lithuania or any other civilized place outside North Canada,
north Alaska and North Siberia - they will be equally destroyed and/or
poisoned.
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