vkarlamov1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On Mar 3, 7:22 am, "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <urj...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>> ostap_bender_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>> On Mar 2, 8:20 pm, The Black Monk <ch....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> On Mar 1, 3:59 pm, ostap_bender_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>> I just found a seemingly objective and authoritative description of
>>> the 1941 Lviv / Lwow Massacre in Die Zeit in 2001:
>>> http://www.zeit.de/2001/26/200126_a-lemberg.xml
>>> How is your German, BM? Mine is very rusty. Takes me a long time to
>>> understand the details. Can anybody help translate?
>> Well you could always ask MTRP.
>>
>
> I am almost done myself.
>
>> Tis odd that you didn't cross post to soc.culture.jewish or israel
>> Surely there are plenty of people there who would be eager to help
>> you out.
>> It surely wouldn't be an oversight? Eh?
>>
>> By the way does the article discuss at all the systematic slaughter
>> of the Ukrainian intelligentsia carried out by the retreating Russian
>> armies just before the German invasion. Does it mention who were the
>> collaborators with the communists that helped prepare the lists of
>> those to be liquidated?
>>
>
> Of course it does. It is a perfect work by a responsible historian,
> published in a historical journal and reprinted by the most
> authoritative newspaper in Germany if not the world:
>
> "In the three prisons of Lemberg, Germans discovered murdered inmates.
The
> Soviet NKVD did not have time to evacuate 4 000 prisoners due to the
rapid
> advance of the German troops, missing means of trans****tation,
> and a rebellion by Ukrainian nationalists."
>
>> Oh yes. You sure know how to select the unbiased and historically
>> accurate accounts to present as as arguments by authority.
>>
>
> Yes I do. What do you have against Die Zeit?
>
>> P.s. An uncle and an aunt of mine were murdered in prison by the
Russians
>> in Stryj ~30 miles from Lviv during that retreat. My parents described
>> searching with their parents, for the corpses of their brother and
sister
>> among the dead in the places where the Russians carried out their
slaughter.
>> --
>
> Welcome to the club. All my relatives, who hadn't moved to Moscow or
> Leningrad, were murdered in Latvia, Belarus, Lithuania and Kiev.
>
Yes, but does the article mention who were the collaborators that helped
the NKVD compile the lists of the Ukrainian intelligentcia whom they had
in those prisons?
And does it mention similar prisons in the surrounding towns?
I will be interested in seeing your translation.
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