Re: belated CONGRATULATIONS, MONTENEGRO! Peace at last!

"Mikhail Medved" <mikhail_bear@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > On Apr 18, 4:39 am, "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > "Mikhail Medved" <mikhail_b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > On Apr 16, 10:38 am, vello <vellok...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > > On Apr 16, 4:06 pm, kiril <kir...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > > > ostap_bender_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > > > > UPI re****ts that after over 100 years, Montenegro and Japan 
>> >> > > > > are
>> >> > > > > about
>> >> > > > > to conclude a peace treaty.
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>> >> > > > > Back in 1904, the Principality of Montenegro declared war on
>> >> > > > > Japan
>> >> > > > > as
>> >> > > > > an act of solidarity with its best friend and protector 
>> >> > > > > Russia.
>> >> > > > > The
>> >> > > > > Russo-Japanese war ended in 1905, but Montenegro never
signed 
>> >> > > > > a
>> >> > > > > peace
>> >> > > > > treaty with the Japanese Empire. The most likely reason is 
>> >> > > > > that
>> >> > > > > no
>> >> > > > > one, including the Japanese, knew that Montenegro had
declared
>> >> > > > > war.
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>> >> > > > Did Montenegro have to give up some territory to please Japan?
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>> >> > > Hardly they have grabbed Japanese territory so there is nothing
to
>> >> > > give back.
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>> >> > The Japanese are not in the charity business. They don't ask to 
>> >> > "give
>> >> > back", they just ask you to "give".
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>> >> > -well, charities ask you to "give" too. so help your good friends
in
>> >> > japan.
>> >> > send them a little donation.
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>> >> The russians need to give the Kuriles and part of Sakhalin (which
the
>> >> stole) back to the japanese
>>
>> >> - you know that's not going to happen. the japanese should have
taken
>> >> those
>> >> two that were offered a while back, sat on them for a few decades, 
>> >> then
>> >> reopened the issue on the other two.
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>> > This wouldn't happen. In tradition of Russian generosity, the
Japanese
>> > were offered two islands, and the part of the deal was signing by the
>> > Japanese of the eternal treaty of not demanding any further Russian
>> > land. Yes, they could get the two islands if they weren't greedy.
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>> heh heh, eternal treaty? can i have some of what you're smoking? take
the
>> two when they are offered, sit back and bide your time to make a claim
on
>> the others. in the meantime, encourage settlement. gee, now where have
i
>> heard of that formula before? perhaps a ...certain usenet forum...
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> Well, two Russians allies, its army and fleet, are the only true
> guarantors against claims, anyway, so it makes little difference. But
> would you agree that it's a little harder to substantiate a claim
> right after you signed off on a treaty, in which you waived all your
> claims?

Kind of silly ain't it? Treaty is signed with a gunbarrel pointed directly

at the signers head. Expulsion of many thousands of Ainu from the Kuriles 
can never be justified. South Kuriles belong to Japan and Ainu!