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Re: The History of Latvia

by The Black Monk <ch.mon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 09:41 PM

On May 1, 2:36=A0pm, P=E7teris Cedri=F2=F0 (Peteris Cedrins)
<cedr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On 1 Maijs, 18:19, MTRP(tm) <Mir.Topol...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > It does. Still earlier Mr Latvia licked German and both Bol**** and
> > Nazi *****. That's what your cartoon was all about and why I asked
> > about Mr Latvia's new white massa. Even his ex-Prezidentsha was
> > im****ted from massa's (Canadian) harem ...
>
> I guess you don't realize how comments like this weaken your case to
> the point of absurdity? Tell me, please, how Latvia _ever_ licked
> German ass. Latvia even declared war on Germany, in November 1919.
>
> Licked Bol****e ass? You should watch the cartoon again -- it must have
> been too subtle for you. Letts were quite Bolshevik, yes -- for good
> reason.

Claiming someone as being pro-Bolshevik "for good reason" is
comparable to claiming someone is a Nazi, or a child molestor, or a
murderer "for good reason."

> The 1917 election results indicate more sup****t for Bolshevism
> in Livonia than almost anywhere in Russia proper. I don't see how
> that's licking ass -- or are you disputing the basic Russian line that
> "Bolshevism was Jewish brains and Latvian muscles"? Do you think it's
> weird that a massive but rather educated underclass and large numbers
> of the landless sup****ted a revolutionary movement? I don't.

Sure, but in Latvia this movement was Bolshevik, particularly.  In
Ukraine the m***** sup****ted anti-Bolshevik Petliura, various
warlords, the anarchist Makhno, etc. and in Russia the m***** weren't
pro-Bolshevik either.

> It's more interesting to discuss what happened to that movement here
> -- how quickly it lost popularity after it had to put its money where
> its mouth was. Destroying the Russian Empire, in my opinion, was a
> lovely thing. The Czar deserved it.

What about the democratic government?  The Bolsheviks didn't overthrow
the czar, you know.  They just murdered him and his family.

Was the Provisional government so awful that Russia deserved to have
the Bolshevik regime replace it?

> Akuraters wrote a fine book about the Red Riflemen, in which he asked
> how they would face their mothers. But they -- Akuraters included --
> did do that, you see, and built a rather nice country in the bargain.

Sure, the Latvians forced a regime on the Russian and Ukrainian people
that was far, far worse, than what had ever been done to their own
people, and washed their hands of it, living happily for about 20
years.  Unfortunately the consequences of that crime came back to them
and their people.

regards,

BM
 




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The History of Latvia
=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-04-25 23:27:17 
Re: The History of Latvia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-04-26 02:48:07 
Re: The History of Latvia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-04-26 02:53:07 
Re: The History of Latvia
Dmitry <dmitrijsfedoto  2008-04-26 13:15:50 
Re: The History of Latvia
=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-04-26 17:24:25 
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Anton <anton.usenet@[E  2008-04-28 13:13:52 
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darsiaubas@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-26 21:32:27 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-04-28 08:14:22 
Re: The History of Latvia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-04-28 22:57:04 
Re: The History of Latvia
Dmitry <dmitrijsfedoto  2008-04-28 13:26:39 
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anita <kodols@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 15:07:14 
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lorad474@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-28 23:33:21 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-04-29 03:03:06 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-04-29 03:05:48 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-04-29 03:13:00 
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"captain." <  2008-04-29 10:27:52 
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Dmitry <dmitrijsfedoto  2008-04-29 08:12:12 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-04-29 22:08:30 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-04-29 23:36:45 
Re: The History of Latvia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-04-30 10:38:20 
Re: The History of Latvia
Dmitry <dmitrijsfedoto  2008-04-30 13:14:49 
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=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-05-01 08:19:31 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-01 10:47:32 
Re: The History of Latvia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-01 22:15:29 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-01 11:36:33 
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=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-05-01 13:59:48 
Re: The History of Latvia
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-01 21:41:30 
Re: The History of Latvia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-02 22:39:37 
Re: The History of Latvia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 02:37:18 
Re: The History of Latvia
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-02 20:54:06 
Re: The History of Latvia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-03 12:12:56 
Re: The History of Latvia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 02:38:57 
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ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 02:54:30 
Re: The History of Latvia
Dmitry <dmitrijsfedoto  2008-05-03 06:41:40 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-03 08:27:57 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-03 09:28:08 
Re: The History of Latvia
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-04 20:26:41 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-04 23:40:59 
Re: The History of Latvia
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-05 20:18:18 
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The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-05 20:31:02 
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"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-06 11:07:25 
Re: The History of Latvia
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-06 05:20:24 
Re: The History of Latvia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-06 17:34:23 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-06 09:34:28 
Re: The History of Latvia
Dmitry <dmitrijsfedoto  2008-05-06 11:14:09 
Re: The History of Latvia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-06 23:21:16 
Re: The History of Latvia
=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-05-06 12:37:13 
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=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-05-06 13:05:58 
Re: The History of Latvia
Dmitry <dmitrijsfedoto  2008-05-06 15:01:15 
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=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-05-06 16:07:05 
Re: The History of Latvia
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-06 21:00:01 
Re: The History of Latvia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-07 12:16:19 
Re: The History of Latvia
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-06 21:05:01 
Re: The History of Latvia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 21:09:02 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-06 23:12:00 
Re: The History of Latvia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 23:15:13 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-06 23:23:14 
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ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 23:43:41 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-07 02:47:34 
Re: The History of Latvia
=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-05-07 03:58:23 
Re: The History of Latvia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-07 14:07:57 
Re: The History of Latvia
=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-07 04:21:23 
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=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-05-07 14:48:15 
Re: The History of Latvia
=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-05-07 14:52:30 
Re: The History of Latvia
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-07 20:23:29 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-08 00:05:27 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-08 04:25:40 
Re: The History of Latvia
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-08 06:46:23 
Re: The History of Latvia
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-08 15:56:03 
Re: The History of Latvia
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-08 16:24:41 
Re: The History of Latvia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 15:10:07 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-10 04:30:18 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-18 06:31:59 
Re: The History of Latvia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-18 16:17:49 
Re: The History of Latvia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-22 10:18:37 
Re: The History of Latvia
=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-22 09:53:05 
Re: The History of Latvia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-24 00:59:22 

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