Re: The History of Latvia

On May 1, 9:41=A0pm, The Black Monk <ch....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 1, 2:36=A0pm, P=E7teris Cedri=F2=F0 (Peteris Cedrins)
>
> <cedr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > On 1 Maijs, 18:19, MTRP(tm) <Mir.Topol...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > It does. Still earlier Mr Latvia licked German and both Bol**** and
> > > Nazi *****. That's what your cartoon was all about and why I asked
> > > about Mr Latvia's new white massa. Even his ex-Prezidentsha was
> > > im****ted from massa's (Canadian) harem ...
>
> > I guess you don't realize how comments like this weaken your case to
> > the point of absurdity? Tell me, please, how Latvia _ever_ licked
> > German ass. Latvia even declared war on Germany, in November 1919.
>
> > Licked Bol****e ass? You should watch the cartoon again -- it must have
> > been too subtle for you. Letts were quite Bolshevik, yes -- for good
> > reason.
>
> Claiming someone as being pro-Bolshevik "for good reason" is
> comparable to claiming someone is a Nazi, or a child molestor, or a
> murderer "for good reason."
>
What I admir ein Reteris is to him, whatever Latvians/Letts do is
"good" and "for good" reason, be it communism or dictator****p. On the
other hand, whatever Russians do - is always "for evil reasons".  A
few Russians "were  Bolshevik, yes -- for bad reason". And now
Russians are capitalists and anti-bolsheviks - again, for bad reason.

The fact that Putin didn't arrest Kasparov, kasyanov, Limonov and the
NatzBols - proves that all Russians are Stalinists and Nazis, because
NazBols are Stalinists and Nazis.

The fact that Putin prevented Kasparov, kasyanov, Limonov and the
NatzBols from demonstrating in public - further proves that all
Russians are Stalinists and Nazis, because NazBols are pro-Western
democrats.

When Russia tried to raise gas prices on Ukraine - that proved that
Russia was doing so not out of natural capitalist considerations but
purely for political reasons, because it didn't raise prices on
Belarus.

And when Russia tried to raise gas prices on Belarus - that further
proved that Russia was doing so not out of natural capitalist
considerations but purely for political reasons, because it didn't
raise prices on ... well, I don't know, on somebody else, maybe on
Luxemburg?

Whatever Russia does - the West always finds reasons to present
Russian actions as evil.

>
> > The 1917 election results indicate more sup****t for Bolshevism
> > in Livonia than almost anywhere in Russia proper. I don't see how
> > that's licking ass -- or are you disputing the basic Russian line that
> > "Bolshevism was Jewish brains and Latvian muscles"? Do you think it's
> > weird that a massive but rather educated underclass and large numbers
> > of the landless sup****ted a revolutionary movement? I don't.
>
> Sure, but in Latvia this movement was Bolshevik, particularly. =A0In
> Ukraine the m***** sup****ted anti-Bolshevik Petliura, various
> warlords, the anarchist Makhno, etc. and in Russia the m***** weren't
> pro-Bolshevik either.
>
> > It's more interesting to discuss what happened to that movement here
> > -- how quickly it lost popularity after it had to put its money where
> > its mouth was. Destroying the Russian Empire, in my opinion, was a
> > lovely thing. The Czar deserved it.
>
> What about the democratic government? =A0The Bolsheviks didn't overthrow
> the czar, you know. =A0They just murdered him and his family.
>
> Was the Provisional government so awful that Russia deserved to have
> the Bolshevik regime replace it?
>
> > Akuraters wrote a fine book about the Red Riflemen, in which he asked
> > how they would face their mothers. But they -- Akuraters included --
> > did do that, you see, and built a rather nice country in the bargain.
>
> Sure, the Latvians forced a regime on the Russian and Ukrainian people
> that was far, far worse, than what had ever been done to their own
> people, and washed their hands of it, living happily for about 20
> years. =A0Unfortunately the consequences of that crime came back to them
> and their people.
>
> regards,
>
> BM