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Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....

by Mikhail Medved <mikhail_bear@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 4, 2008 at 12:16 PM

On May 3, 1:44 am, lorad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On May 2, 8:18 am, "Henry Alminas" <halmi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > ... space" matushka is in the process
> > of engulfing her neighbors yet one
> > more time.  These activities need to
> > be closely monitored by the Balts.  Akin
> > to the case in Georgia matushka planted
> > great numbers of her colonizing
> > kiddies in the Baltics (post war)  and has been
> > making noises about "protecting her
> > compatriots" for some time now.
>
> > One should note, however, that rather than
> > the "bull in the china shop" approach used
> > in Georgia they are engaged much more
> > subtle moves.
>
> > Why - one might ask.  The answer is very
> > simple the Baltic countries are in NATO
> > - even if largely symbolically.  Thus the
> > Kremlin is not quite sure as to the reaction
> > of this organization to its more crass (and
> > more natural for russkies) activities.  As a
> > result it has restricted itself to doing "spade
> > work" in preparation of getting the Baltic
> > countries into a Georgian position.  It is
> > investing massive efforts (and funds) in
> > driving a wedge between the Baltic countries
> > and other club members within NATO as
> > well as the EU.  This effort has been but
> > moderately successful.   On the other hand
> > the Kremlin has lots of time.
>
> > Certainly Europe, Rather than being mesmerized
> > by the ****ographic spectacle of the ongoing
> > krautoid-russkie fornication, needs to wake
> > up and understand that the Kremlin is playing
> > the same old russkie game - a game that has not
> > even gained much in sophistication over the many
> > centuries.
>
> > Surely even in societies, completely submerged
> > within a "I got mine/wanna get mine" mentality,
> > there must be  individuals with enough
> > intelligence to recognize the game and enough
> > intestinal fortitude to condemn it and counteract
> > it.
>
> > That is all I ask.
>
> > Best - - Henry
>
> > For educational purposes only:
>
> > From: The Jamestown Foundation
> > (Eurasia Daily Monitor)
>
> > ANNEXATION AND MILITARIZATION OF
> > ABKHAZIA CONTINUE APACE
> > By Vladimir Socor
> > Thursday, May 1, 2008
>
> > Russia has again challenged Georgia and the West in Abkhazia,
> > this time with military action. Its first challenge had been
> > President Vladimir Putin''s April 16 decree, authorizing direct
> > official relations between Russian government bodies and the
> > secessionist authorities in Georgia's Abkhazia and South Ossetia
> >  regions (see EDM, April 18). This unilateral move
> > amounted to official ""legal"" recognition in terms of Russian
> > law, formalizing Russia''s de facto annexation policy in the
> > two territories.
>
> > This move is now being followed up with overt militarization
> > and cross-border acts of aggression in Abkhazia.
>
> > On April 20 a Russian MIG-29 fighter plane shot down a
> > Georgian unmanned aerial reconnaissance vehicle (UAV) over
> >  the Gali district in southern Abkhazia, deep inside the
> > internationally recognized Georgian territory and airspace.
> > The Israeli-made, Georgian- operated UAV is an unarmed drone,
> >  merely a flying photographic and video camera, used by
> > Georgia ''s Internal Affairs Ministry to ascertain Russian
> > military movements in Abkhazia. The drone transmitted in
> >  real time the images of the Russian plane approaching and
> > firing an air-to-air missile at the UAV. Posted by Georgian
> >  authorities on you.tube, the film corroborates Georgian radar
> > data tracking that same MIG-29 as it gained altitude over the
> > Russian-held Gudauta military airfield, flying over the Gali
> > district and then turning north into Russian airspace. Georgia
> >  immediately proposed to Russia to exchange radar and any
> > other data on the incident. As of April 30 the Russian side
> > had not responded (Georgian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
> > statements, April 21, 26, 30; Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
> > statement, April 29).
>
> > Moscow claims that any one of the new NATO member
> > countries with residual MIG inventories might have staged
> > the incident in order to provoke Russia. Minister of Foreign
> > Affairs Sergei Lavrov told this tale to the European Union
> > during high-level meetings on overall EU-Russia relations
> > on April 29 and 30 in Luxemburg (Interfax, April 29, 30). This
> > claim brings a slight variation to the master theme that
> > Georgia fires at Georgian targets in order to accuse Russia,
> > as Moscow insisted after the Russian air attacks in March
> > and August 2007 over Abkhazia and South Ossetia, respectively.
>
> > Unwittingly contradicting Moscow''s version of the April 20
> > incident, Abkhaz authorities were quick to claim that they had
> > themselves shot down the Georgian UAV (Apsnypress, April
> > 21). Although inherently absurd, this claim could have prompted
> > international inquiries to Russia about its illegal arms deliveries
> > to Abkhaz proxy forces, inside the internationally recognized
> > Georgian territory. Such inquiries have yet to come, however.
>
> > By shooting down the UAV, Moscow almost certainly aimed
> > to reduce Georgian (and, by implication, Western) ability to
> > monitor the next Russian military moves into Abkhazia,
> > which have been underway since at least April 29. On that date
> >  Russian convoys of artillery, armored vehicles, and additional
> > troop units crossed the internationally recognized Russia-
> > Georgia border at the Psou River, into the secessionist territory.
> > Moscow has announced that its troops opened and are manning
> > a number of new ""border checkpoints"" on what Moscow
> > described as a Russian-Abkhazian border, which is actually the
> >  Russian-Georgian border in international law (Interfax, April 29,
30).
>
> > Moscow claims, as Lavrov told the EU in the Luxemburg meeting,
> > to be ""preventing bloodshed"" and ""protecting Russia''s citizens""
> > in Abkhazia, in response to Georgian troop deployments in the
> > upper Kodori Valley. The United Nations Observer Mission in
> > Georgia (UNOMIG), however, indirectly refuted that accusation
> > by announcing that it had not observed any such Georgian troop
> > deployments. UNOMIG monitors the area alongside Russia''s own
> >  ""peacekeeping"" troops. On the whole, Moscow ****trays its latest
> > military moves as an increase in its ""peacekeeping"" operation.
> >  Russia did not prenotify, let alone request consent from, the legally
> >  sovereign Georgian government or any international organization.
>
> > These moves violate multiple international legal norms and
> > specific agreements. Russia''s ""peacekeeping"" operation is
> > nominally a Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS)
> > operation, an illusion accepted for convenience by the UN.
> >  Although this cover does not make the Russian operation a
> > legal one in any sense (the CIS has no authority to mandate
> > peacekeeping operations), any additions to the operation
> > would necessitate approval by CIS countries'' heads of state,
> >  at least on paper. Aware that it could not muster such approval,
> > Moscow has moved unilaterally, thus discrediting both the
> > CIS in its pur****ted peacekeeping role and the UN for its
> >  acceptance of that pretense.
>
> > Furthermore, Moscow is now openly erasing an internationally
> > recognized border through military force. It also exacerbates its
> >  continuing breach of the Treaty on Conventional Forces
> > in Europe (CFE) by augmenting the Russian heavy weaponry
> > in Abkhazia, which is also Georgian territory from that treaty''s
> > point of view. Russia has deployed ""unaccounted-for treaty-limited
> > equipment"" (UTLE) in Abkhazia and other secessionist territories
> >  for the past decade, above treaty ceilings and beyond international
> > verification. Some of that hardware (as well as lighter weaponry)
> >  has been placed at the disposal of unlawful secessionist forces.
> > Russia also holds onto the Gudauta base and is apparently using
> > it, despite Moscow''s 1999 commitment to vacate the base by 2001.
>
> > International and Western organizations have, on the whole, tacitly
> >  tolerated Russian militarization measures in Abkhazia from the
> > 1990s to now. These organizations and leading Western nations
> >  will risk their credibility if they continue such tolerance after
Moscow''s
> > latest, overtly military moves.
>
> Note the kremlin blubbering behavior...
>
> 'Nyet nyet.. you cannot violate the sacred international borders of
> Serbian Kosovo...'
> -but-
> 'Da da.. we must send in our soldati to protect the puppet controlled
> rebel regions of Georgia...'

Russia exhibits a noble and principled behavior in these both cases.
Unlike political prostitutes from Baltic governments, who sup****t any
"independence" as long as their masters tell them to, and sup****t
oppression thereof, if their masters tell them  to do that.
 




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Akin to "the blob from outer....
"Henry Alminas"  2008-05-02 09:18:58 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 21:38:47 
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lorad474@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-02 22:44:17 
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vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-03 00:17:39 
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Dmitry <dmitrijsfedoto  2008-05-03 14:04:13 
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burlega@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-04 08:03:57 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-04 12:08:39 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-05 00:39:23 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-04 12:11:58 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-04 12:16:45 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-04 17:37:31 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-04 18:03:40 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
martin <martintg@[EMAI  2008-05-04 19:54:16 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-04 23:38:51 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 21:13:09 
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ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 21:15:35 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 21:23:25 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-06 00:27:38 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 20:15:32 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-06 21:07:37 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 22:20:01 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-07 01:24:24 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-07 04:49:24 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 15:22:35 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-09 20:31:44 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-09 22:05:36 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-09 23:43:32 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-13 13:29:50 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-15 06:50:20 
Re: Akin to "the blob from outer....
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-26 00:22:45 

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