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kirjoitti:
> On Apr 26, 11:10 am, Anton <anton.use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> What amazes me is that in junior competitions, Canada always finishes
>>> 1st, Russia - 2nd, and others never seem to be anywhere near. But when
>>> it comes to Olympics played on neutral ice - Russia finishes 4th way
>>> behind Sweden, Finland and Czech R, and Canada gets drubbed by
>>> Switzerland and Russia and funishes 8th. Weird.
>> Except for the juniors, you're making things up again:
>>
>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Hockey_World_Champion****pshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey_at_the_Olympic_Games
>>
>
> You are looking up the wromg Wiki pages. here is the official page for
> the last Olympics. Here is the right one:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey_at_the_2006_Winter_Olympics
>> Canada has one Olympic gold, and with four WC titles is tied for 1st
>> with the Czechs in number of champion****ps won for the last decade.
> WCs mean very little. Many of the best players cannot participate
> because they are still working in USA for the NHL.
There are 30 teams and more than 600 players in the NHL. Players from 26
NHL teams (out of 30) *and* all of the european leagues are available.
>> Russia has zero champion****ps during this same period. So does Finland,
>> by the way.
> Who cares about tournaments that don't use best players?
86% of the NHL players and 100% of the players from european leagues are
available. Almost all of the best players are available, so you are
talking rubbish again.
> Like this
> year, the second best player in the World, Malkin, is likely to miss.
> So will the best defenceman in the world Gonchar
Gonchar isn't the best defenseman in the world. Nicklas Lidström is.
> and many other top
> Russian players. maybe even Russia's goalie Nabokov.
Finland is missing the best european goaltender in the world, Miika
Kiprusoff, and the 2nd best european defenseman, Kimmo Timonen.
Kiprusoff by the way is one of those guys who doesn't participate in
national contests at all even if he in theory is available. For years
many Russians likevise refused to play for Russia (Mogilny, Fedorov,
Larionov) even when they were available from the club teams. So applying
your logic: < 100% participation by players = 2nd rate tournament.
> What's im****tant is that when all best players are allowed to play,
> Russia, Finland and Chzech R. have won every game that it played
> against Canada anywhere in the World outside of North America since
> 1972, i.e., since their very first meeting 36 years ago.
Yeah, three Olympic tournmants held with all NHL players available,
where two outside North America - and euros winning two even with the
"biased" NHL referees. The sample is so big that you can find a
correlation between venue and end result. Uhh.. okay.. mr science. With
such unscientific conclusions it is impossible to belive your word when
you say you are a mathematician.
> Even though
> all these games were reffed by fellow Canadian refs, with few
> exceptions when fellow American refs were in charge. No European ref
> was ever allowed to ref these games. Why? The official reason that the
> NHL gives is that Europeans like you Finns have an incredibly low IQ
> and cannot produce decent refs.
ALL Finnish referees are part-timers with "real" daytime jobs, so they
can be called amateurs. The NHL referees on the other hand are full-time
professionals.
> My opinion is that this is done to
> help Canada and USA slash, cross-check, rough and beat up the
> opponents with the help of the friendly NHL ref.
You are living in the past. The "Broad Street Bullies" days are over.
> No other s****t in the world is ruled by such bigotted and ignorant
If there would be such a bias as you suggested how come 1998 and 2006
medalists were non-Canadian? Proves your theory as bs...
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Anton
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