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> On Apr 29, 2:48 am, "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "Dmitry" <dmitrijsfedot...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On 25 Apr, 09:33, "J. Anderson" <anderso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> > Russia's ambassador to the EU, Vladimir Chizhov, voiced concern
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> > >> > that the EU was allowing the negotiations to be taken hostage by
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> > >> > member states that were once Soviet satellites and bore a grudge
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> > >> Surprise, surprise!
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> > > One day politicians must reasise that investing in locally produced
> > > renewable energies can solve many problems.
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> > amen. the rising price of oil will hopefully help to expediate this
> > process.
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> > I hear that bio-diesel production has already led to the doubling of
> > rice prices and is likely to lead to hundreds of millions of deaths
> > from starvation in the 3rd world.
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> > - yeah, but largely due more to speculation than actual fact.
> > nevertheless,
> > there is a rising backlash against ethanol because of very valid
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> > for rising corn and sugar prices. ethanol is not a vaible answer
> > long-term.
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> So, what "renewable energies" are the answer? Milk? Chicken blood?
> Will GM ever produce milk-driven car engines?
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> -well really, if you want to get technical, there is no such thing as a
> truly renewable energy source. everything is finite, even solar. believe
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> if i had an answer, i'd be selling it.
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> - solar is always improving.
> - wind can give some.
> - tidal seems interesting.
> - hydrogen... the jury's out on that one.
> - corn/sugar based ethanol is good for a little but must be kept low.
> - oil/coal, good enough for now.
> - nuclear, i like it but most people don't.
> - hydro, good , but almost tapped out in the first world countries.
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> it would seem that a combination of sources combined with higher
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> in energy consumption products is a solution for now. we'll all be dead
> before that stuff runs out :)
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But I have 3 children and hope to have grandchildren as well.


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