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> > > On 25 Apr, 09:33, "J. Anderson" <anderso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> > Russia's ambassador to the EU, Vladimir Chizhov, voiced concern
> > >> > last
> > >> > week
> > >> > that the EU was allowing the negotiations to be taken hostage by
> > >> > new
> > >> > member states that were once Soviet satellites and bore a grudge
> > >> > against
> > >> > Moscow.
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> > >> Surprise, surprise!
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> > > One day politicians must reasise that investing in locally produced
> > > renewable energies can solve many problems.
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> > amen. the rising price of oil will hopefully help to expediate this
> > process.
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> > I hear that bio-diesel production has already led to the doubling of
> > rice prices and is likely to lead to hundreds of millions of deaths
> > from starvation in the 3rd world.
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> > - yeah, but largely due more to speculation than actual fact.
> > nevertheless,
> > there is a rising backlash against ethanol because of very valid
> > concerns
> > for rising corn and sugar prices. ethanol is not a vaible answer
> > long-term.
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> So, what "renewable energies" are the answer? Milk? Chicken blood?
> Will GM ever produce milk-driven car engines?
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> -well really, if you want to get technical, there is no such thing as a
> truly renewable energy source. everything is finite, even solar. believe
> me,
> if i had an answer, i'd be selling it.
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> - solar is always improving.
> - wind can give some.
> - tidal seems interesting.
> - hydrogen... the jury's out on that one.
> - corn/sugar based ethanol is good for a little but must be kept low.
> - oil/coal, good enough for now.
> - nuclear, i like it but most people don't.
> - hydro, good , but almost tapped out in the first world countries.
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> it would seem that a combination of sources combined with higher
> efficiency
> in energy consumption products is a solution for now. we'll all be dead
> before that stuff runs out :)
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But I have 3 children and hope to have grandchildren as well.
- then keep this in mind: as long as there is enough food, water, and
shelter, we can adapt. of course if people can't stop having too many
babies
those things will be in doubt too. the world of tomorrow sounds like it's
in
danger of becoming a complete sh^thole.


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