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Re: this day in history

by =?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris_Cedri=F2=F0_=28Peteris_Cedrins=29?= <c May 8, 2008 at 02:34 AM

On 8 Maijs, 09:13, lorad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On May 7, 8:46 pm, P=C4=93teris Cedri=C5=86=C5=A1 (Peteris Cedrins)
>
>
>
> <cedr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > On 7 Maijs, 17:50, EZ <zvi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > The 40 year long Lithuanian language ban was lifted in 1904 by the
> > > power that Lenin called 'the prison of nations'. One can argue that
> > > without the resilience to withstand this ban we would have no modern
> > > Lithuania.
>
> > > Best regards,
> > > EZ
>
> > Thanks for the note, Evaldai. Don't forget your northern brothers --
> > the print ban applied to Latgallia also. Though there was some
> > contraband like with the knygne=C3=B0iai, the fact that foreign books
we=
re
> > too expensive and the language different meant that Latgallians had to
> > resort to copying books by hand.
>
> > "Pra=C3=ABjusio am=C3=BEiaus antroje pus=C3=ABj=C3=AB Latgaloje, taip
pa=
t kaip Lietuvoje,
> > galiojo spaudos draudimas. Kadangi nedaugelis u=C3=BEsienyje
i=C3=B0leis=
t=C3=B8 ir
> > kontrobandos keliu =C3=A1 Latgal=C3=A0 =C3=A1ve=C3=BEtu knyg=C3=B8
valst=
ie=C3=A8i=C3=B8 ****eiki=C3=B8
> > patenkinti negal=C3=ABjo, tarp valstie=C3=A8i=C3=B8 atsirado
knyg=C3=B8 =
perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABtoj=C3=B8,
> > kurie prad=C3=BEiojo perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjo maldaknyges bei giesmynus.
Pa=
laipsniui
> > knyg=C3=B8 perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjimo funkcijos pl=C3=ABt=C3=ABsi - ranka
b=
uvo perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjami ir
> > pasaulietinio pob=C3=BBd=C3=BEio ra=C3=B0tai, patarimai
valstie=C3=A8iam=
s, tautosakos
> > med=C3=BEiaga, sudaromi rankra=C3=B0tiniai kalendoriai. Tod=C3=ABl
galim=
a kalb=C3=ABti
> > apie i=C3=B0tis=C3=A0 period=C3=A0 latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0t=C3=B8
kalbos =
istorijoje - rankra=C3=B0tini=C3=B8
> > knyg=C3=B8 period=C3=A0.
>
> > "Straipsnyje Latgalos rankra=C3=B0tin=C3=AB literat=C3=BBra
nagrin=C3=AB=
jama lingvistiniu
> > aspektu, kalbama apie =C3=BEymiausio Latgalos knyg=C3=B8
perra=C3=B0in=
=C3=ABtojo Andrivo
> > J=C3=BBrd=C3=BEio (1845-1925) k=C3=BBryb=C3=A0. Nagrin=C3=ABjama iki
spa=
udos draudimo
> > laikotarpio susidariusios latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0t=C3=B8 kalbos
tradicija=
, stichi=C3=B0kai
> > susiformavusios kalbos norm=C3=B8 bei gimtosios tarm=C3=ABs santykiai.
> > Nagrin=C3=ABjama med=C3=BEiaga leid=C3=BEia daryti i=C3=B0vad=C3=A0,
jog=
 Andrivui J=C3=BBrd=C3=BEiui
> > b=C3=BBdinga sava individuali ra=C3=B0yba, tradicija, kurioje
pastebima =
didel=C3=AB
> > gimtosios tarm=C3=ABs =C3=A1taka. Reikia priminti, kad iki spaudos
draud=
imo
> > i=C3=B0leist=C3=B8 latgali=C3=B8 knyg=C3=B8 autoriai daugiausia buvo
kit=
atau=C3=A8iai, o
> > rankra=C3=B0tin=C3=A6 literat=C3=BBr=C3=A0 suk=C3=BBr=C3=AB patys
Latgal=
os latvi=C3=B8 valstie=C3=A8iai, taip
> > u=C3=BEtikrindami latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0ybos bei literat=C3=BBros
proces=
o
> > nenutr=C3=BBkstamum=C3=A0."
>
>
>http://www.vvk.lv/index.php?sadala=3D234&id=3D781&PHPSESSID=3Df2f29406b3b=
8a2
>
> What's your interest in Latgala based on?
> I have relatives from there.. did you?

On 8 Maijs, 09:13, lorad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On May 7, 8:46 pm, P=C4=93teris Cedri=C5=86=C5=A1 (Peteris Cedrins)
>
>
>
> <cedr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > On 7 Maijs, 17:50, EZ <zvi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > The 40 year long Lithuanian language ban was lifted in 1904 by the
> > > power that Lenin called 'the prison of nations'. One can argue that
> > > without the resilience to withstand this ban we would have no modern
> > > Lithuania.
>
> > > Best regards,
> > > EZ
>
> > Thanks for the note, Evaldai. Don't forget your northern brothers --
> > the print ban applied to Latgallia also. Though there was some
> > contraband like with the knygne=C3=B0iai, the fact that foreign books
we=
re
> > too expensive and the language different meant that Latgallians had to
> > resort to copying books by hand.
>
> > "Pra=C3=ABjusio am=C3=BEiaus antroje pus=C3=ABj=C3=AB Latgaloje, taip
pa=
t kaip Lietuvoje,
> > galiojo spaudos draudimas. Kadangi nedaugelis u=C3=BEsienyje
i=C3=B0leis=
t=C3=B8 ir
> > kontrobandos keliu =C3=A1 Latgal=C3=A0 =C3=A1ve=C3=BEtu knyg=C3=B8
valst=
ie=C3=A8i=C3=B8 ****eiki=C3=B8
> > patenkinti negal=C3=ABjo, tarp valstie=C3=A8i=C3=B8 atsirado
knyg=C3=B8 =
perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABtoj=C3=B8,
> > kurie prad=C3=BEiojo perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjo maldaknyges bei giesmynus.
Pa=
laipsniui
> > knyg=C3=B8 perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjimo funkcijos pl=C3=ABt=C3=ABsi - ranka
b=
uvo perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjami ir
> > pasaulietinio pob=C3=BBd=C3=BEio ra=C3=B0tai, patarimai
valstie=C3=A8iam=
s, tautosakos
> > med=C3=BEiaga, sudaromi rankra=C3=B0tiniai kalendoriai. Tod=C3=ABl
galim=
a kalb=C3=ABti
> > apie i=C3=B0tis=C3=A0 period=C3=A0 latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0t=C3=B8
kalbos =
istorijoje - rankra=C3=B0tini=C3=B8
> > knyg=C3=B8 period=C3=A0.
>
> > "Straipsnyje Latgalos rankra=C3=B0tin=C3=AB literat=C3=BBra
nagrin=C3=AB=
jama lingvistiniu
> > aspektu, kalbama apie =C3=BEymiausio Latgalos knyg=C3=B8
perra=C3=B0in=
=C3=ABtojo Andrivo
> > J=C3=BBrd=C3=BEio (1845-1925) k=C3=BBryb=C3=A0. Nagrin=C3=ABjama iki
spa=
udos draudimo
> > laikotarpio susidariusios latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0t=C3=B8 kalbos
tradicija=
, stichi=C3=B0kai
> > susiformavusios kalbos norm=C3=B8 bei gimtosios tarm=C3=ABs santykiai.
> > Nagrin=C3=ABjama med=C3=BEiaga leid=C3=BEia daryti i=C3=B0vad=C3=A0,
jog=
 Andrivui J=C3=BBrd=C3=BEiui
> > b=C3=BBdinga sava individuali ra=C3=B0yba, tradicija, kurioje
pastebima =
didel=C3=AB
> > gimtosios tarm=C3=ABs =C3=A1taka. Reikia priminti, kad iki spaudos
draud=
imo
> > i=C3=B0leist=C3=B8 latgali=C3=B8 knyg=C3=B8 autoriai daugiausia buvo
kit=
atau=C3=A8iai, o
> > rankra=C3=B0tin=C3=A6 literat=C3=BBr=C3=A0 suk=C3=BBr=C3=AB patys
Latgal=
os latvi=C3=B8 valstie=C3=A8iai, taip
> > u=C3=BEtikrindami latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0ybos bei literat=C3=BBros
proces=
o
> > nenutr=C3=BBkstamum=C3=A0."
>
>
>http://www.vvk.lv/index.php?sadala=3D234&id=3D781&PHPSESSID=3Df2f29406b3b=
8a2
>
> What's your interest in Latgala based on?
> I have relatives from there.. did you?

_From_ here, yes -- but, as you know, that doesn't make one
Latgallian. I've lived in Latgola since 1992. My wife was born here in
Daugavpils and studied in R=C4=93zekne. My mother grew up here; her father
worked in the prosecutor's office prior to the Soviet invasion. The
aforementioned were/are _=C4=8Diu=C4=BCi_, though. My first contacts with
_=C4=8Danga=C4=BCi_ were early, however -- a family friend wrote books in
Latgallian in addition to Latvian. My scant formal instruction in
philology was under Jezups Lelis. I had the pleasure of knowing the
late, great poet-philosopher Roberts (Avens) M=C5=ABks and the painter
J=C4=81nis Strods. Some of the people I'm closest to now are native
Latgallians.

Vysu lobu,
/P

http://lettonica.blogspot.com/
 




 9 Posts in Topic:
this day in history
EZ <zvinys@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-07 07:50:03 
Re: this day in history
burlega@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-07 13:47:22 
Re: this day in history
EZ <zvinys@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-07 13:58:17 
Re: this day in history
burlega@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-07 16:48:31 
Re: this day in history
=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-07 20:46:49 
Re: this day in history
lorad474@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-07 23:13:36 
Re: this day in history
"captain." <  2008-05-08 08:32:12 
Re: this day in history
=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-08 02:34:01 
Re: this day in history
=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-08 02:41:24 

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