On 8 Maijs, 12:34, P=C4=93teris Cedri=C5=86=C5=A1 (Peteris Cedrins)
<cedr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On 8 Maijs, 09:13, lorad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 7, 8:46 pm, P=C4=93teris Cedri=C5=86=C5=A1 (Peteris Cedrins)
>
> > <cedr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > On 7 Maijs, 17:50, EZ <zvi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > The 40 year long Lithuanian language ban was lifted in 1904 by the
> > > > power that Lenin called 'the prison of nations'. One can argue
that
> > > > without the resilience to withstand this ban we would have no
modern=
> > > > Lithuania.
>
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > EZ
>
> > > Thanks for the note, Evaldai. Don't forget your northern brothers --
> > > the print ban applied to Latgallia also. Though there was some
> > > contraband like with the knygne=C3=B0iai, the fact that foreign
books =
were
> > > too expensive and the language different meant that Latgallians had
to=
> > > resort to copying books by hand.
>
> > > "Pra=C3=ABjusio am=C3=BEiaus antroje pus=C3=ABj=C3=AB Latgaloje,
taip =
pat kaip Lietuvoje,
> > > galiojo spaudos draudimas. Kadangi nedaugelis u=C3=BEsienyje
i=C3=B0le=
ist=C3=B8 ir
> > > kontrobandos keliu =C3=A1 Latgal=C3=A0 =C3=A1ve=C3=BEtu knyg=C3=B8
val=
stie=C3=A8i=C3=B8 ****eiki=C3=B8
> > > patenkinti negal=C3=ABjo, tarp valstie=C3=A8i=C3=B8 atsirado
knyg=C3=
=B8 perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABtoj=C3=B8,
> > > kurie prad=C3=BEiojo perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjo maldaknyges bei
giesmynus. =
Palaipsniui
> > > knyg=C3=B8 perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjimo funkcijos pl=C3=ABt=C3=ABsi -
ranka=
buvo perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjami ir
> > > pasaulietinio pob=C3=BBd=C3=BEio ra=C3=B0tai, patarimai
valstie=C3=A8i=
ams, tautosakos
> > > med=C3=BEiaga, sudaromi rankra=C3=B0tiniai kalendoriai. Tod=C3=ABl
gal=
ima kalb=C3=ABti
> > > apie i=C3=B0tis=C3=A0 period=C3=A0 latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0t=C3=B8
kalbo=
s istorijoje - rankra=C3=B0tini=C3=B8
> > > knyg=C3=B8 period=C3=A0.
>
> > > "Straipsnyje Latgalos rankra=C3=B0tin=C3=AB literat=C3=BBra
nagrin=C3=
=ABjama lingvistiniu
> > > aspektu, kalbama apie =C3=BEymiausio Latgalos knyg=C3=B8
perra=C3=B0in=
=C3=ABtojo Andrivo
> > > J=C3=BBrd=C3=BEio (1845-1925) k=C3=BBryb=C3=A0. Nagrin=C3=ABjama iki
s=
paudos draudimo
> > > laikotarpio susidariusios latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0t=C3=B8 kalbos
tradici=
ja, stichi=C3=B0kai
> > > susiformavusios kalbos norm=C3=B8 bei gimtosios tarm=C3=ABs
santykiai.=
> > > Nagrin=C3=ABjama med=C3=BEiaga leid=C3=BEia daryti i=C3=B0vad=C3=A0,
j=
og Andrivui J=C3=BBrd=C3=BEiui
> > > b=C3=BBdinga sava individuali ra=C3=B0yba, tradicija, kurioje
pastebim=
a didel=C3=AB
> > > gimtosios tarm=C3=ABs =C3=A1taka. Reikia priminti, kad iki spaudos
dra=
udimo
> > > i=C3=B0leist=C3=B8 latgali=C3=B8 knyg=C3=B8 autoriai daugiausia buvo
k=
itatau=C3=A8iai, o
> > > rankra=C3=B0tin=C3=A6 literat=C3=BBr=C3=A0 suk=C3=BBr=C3=AB patys
Latg=
alos latvi=C3=B8 valstie=C3=A8iai, taip
> > > u=C3=BEtikrindami latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0ybos bei literat=C3=BBros
proc=
eso
> > > nenutr=C3=BBkstamum=C3=A0."
>
> >
>http://www.vvk.lv/index.php?sadala=3D234&id=3D781&PHPSESSID=3Df2f29406b=
3b8a2
>
> > What's your interest in Latgala based on?
> > I have relatives from there.. did you?
>
> On 8 Maijs, 09:13, lorad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 7, 8:46 pm, P=C4=93teris Cedri=C5=86=C5=A1 (Peteris Cedrins)
>
> > <cedr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > On 7 Maijs, 17:50, EZ <zvi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > The 40 year long Lithuanian language ban was lifted in 1904 by the
> > > > power that Lenin called 'the prison of nations'. One can argue
that
> > > > without the resilience to withstand this ban we would have no
modern=
> > > > Lithuania.
>
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > EZ
>
> > > Thanks for the note, Evaldai. Don't forget your northern brothers --
> > > the print ban applied to Latgallia also. Though there was some
> > > contraband like with the knygne=C3=B0iai, the fact that foreign
books =
were
> > > too expensive and the language different meant that Latgallians had
to=
> > > resort to copying books by hand.
>
> > > "Pra=C3=ABjusio am=C3=BEiaus antroje pus=C3=ABj=C3=AB Latgaloje,
taip =
pat kaip Lietuvoje,
> > > galiojo spaudos draudimas. Kadangi nedaugelis u=C3=BEsienyje
i=C3=B0le=
ist=C3=B8 ir
> > > kontrobandos keliu =C3=A1 Latgal=C3=A0 =C3=A1ve=C3=BEtu knyg=C3=B8
val=
stie=C3=A8i=C3=B8 ****eiki=C3=B8
> > > patenkinti negal=C3=ABjo, tarp valstie=C3=A8i=C3=B8 atsirado
knyg=C3=
=B8 perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABtoj=C3=B8,
> > > kurie prad=C3=BEiojo perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjo maldaknyges bei
giesmynus. =
Palaipsniui
> > > knyg=C3=B8 perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjimo funkcijos pl=C3=ABt=C3=ABsi -
ranka=
buvo perra=C3=B0in=C3=ABjami ir
> > > pasaulietinio pob=C3=BBd=C3=BEio ra=C3=B0tai, patarimai
valstie=C3=A8i=
ams, tautosakos
> > > med=C3=BEiaga, sudaromi rankra=C3=B0tiniai kalendoriai. Tod=C3=ABl
gal=
ima kalb=C3=ABti
> > > apie i=C3=B0tis=C3=A0 period=C3=A0 latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0t=C3=B8
kalbo=
s istorijoje - rankra=C3=B0tini=C3=B8
> > > knyg=C3=B8 period=C3=A0.
>
> > > "Straipsnyje Latgalos rankra=C3=B0tin=C3=AB literat=C3=BBra
nagrin=C3=
=ABjama lingvistiniu
> > > aspektu, kalbama apie =C3=BEymiausio Latgalos knyg=C3=B8
perra=C3=B0in=
=C3=ABtojo Andrivo
> > > J=C3=BBrd=C3=BEio (1845-1925) k=C3=BBryb=C3=A0. Nagrin=C3=ABjama iki
s=
paudos draudimo
> > > laikotarpio susidariusios latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0t=C3=B8 kalbos
tradici=
ja, stichi=C3=B0kai
> > > susiformavusios kalbos norm=C3=B8 bei gimtosios tarm=C3=ABs
santykiai.=
> > > Nagrin=C3=ABjama med=C3=BEiaga leid=C3=BEia daryti i=C3=B0vad=C3=A0,
j=
og Andrivui J=C3=BBrd=C3=BEiui
> > > b=C3=BBdinga sava individuali ra=C3=B0yba, tradicija, kurioje
pastebim=
a didel=C3=AB
> > > gimtosios tarm=C3=ABs =C3=A1taka. Reikia priminti, kad iki spaudos
dra=
udimo
> > > i=C3=B0leist=C3=B8 latgali=C3=B8 knyg=C3=B8 autoriai daugiausia buvo
k=
itatau=C3=A8iai, o
> > > rankra=C3=B0tin=C3=A6 literat=C3=BBr=C3=A0 suk=C3=BBr=C3=AB patys
Latg=
alos latvi=C3=B8 valstie=C3=A8iai, taip
> > > u=C3=BEtikrindami latgali=C3=B8 ra=C3=B0ybos bei literat=C3=BBros
proc=
eso
> > > nenutr=C3=BBkstamum=C3=A0."
>
> >
>http://www.vvk.lv/index.php?sadala=3D234&id=3D781&PHPSESSID=3Df2f29406b=
3b8a2
>
> > What's your interest in Latgala based on?
> > I have relatives from there.. did you?
>
> _From_ here, yes -- but, as you know, that doesn't make one
> Latgallian. I've lived in Latgola since 1992. My wife was born here in
> Daugavpils and studied in R=C4=93zekne. My mother grew up here; her
father=
> worked in the prosecutor's office prior to the Soviet invasion. The
> aforementioned were/are _=C4=8Diu=C4=BCi_, though. My first contacts
with
> _=C4=8Danga=C4=BCi_ were early, however -- a family friend wrote books
in
> Latgallian in addition to Latvian. My scant formal instruction in
> philology was under Jezups Lelis. I had the pleasure of knowing the
> late, great poet-philosopher Roberts (Avens) M=C5=ABks and the painter
> J=C4=81nis Strods. Some of the people I'm closest to now are native
> Latgallians.
>
> Vysu lobu,
> /P
>
> http://lettonica.blogspot.com/
An amusing Latgallian film --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEf2DGcO-8nI
(Some who know Russian might also find parts of this quite funny...)
"McDonald v Latgaliji" --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIkZQE7WS3D4&feature=3Drelated
(This last probably only works for Latvian/Latgallian speakers...)
/P


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