On May 9, 9:10=C2=A0am, ostap_bender_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On May 8, 12:27=C2=A0am, "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > i remember once, when i made the comment that georgia and russia have
a
> > history of conflict, i was called a liar by a mister v. karlamov and
it =
was
> > demanded that i provide all of the examples from history where this
> > happened.
>
> > hmmm... now where should i begin?
>
> There is no way to predict where *you* will begin, but I would begin
> at the beginning, with the Treaty of Georgievsk, in which Russia, per
> Georgia's request, =C2=A0assumed the obligation of protecting the fellow
> orthodox Christians of Gerogia from the islamic powers that kept on
> destroying it:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Georgievsk
>
> Treaty of Georgievsk
>
> The Treaty of Georgievsk (Russian:
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, Georgian:
>
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=E1=83=A2=E1=83=A0=E1=83=90=E1=83=A5=E1=
=83=A2=E1=83=90=E1=83=A2=E1=83=98) established the east Georgian kingdom
of =
Kartli-
> Kakheti as a protectorate under suzerainty of the Russian Empire, and
> defined the mutual rights and obligations of the two countries toward
> each other in 1783.
>
> Terms
> Under articles I, II, IV, VI and VII of the treaty=E2=80=99s terms,
Russia=
=E2=80=99s
> empress became the official and sole suzerain of
Kartli-Kakheti=E2=80=99s
> rulers, guaranteeing the Georgians=E2=80=99 internal sovereignty and
> territorial integrity, and promising to "regard their enemies as Her
> enemies" [2]. Each of the Georgian kingdom=E2=80=99s tsars would
hencefort=
h be
> obliged to swear allegiance to Russia=E2=80=99s emperors, to sup****t
Russi=
a in
> war, and to have no diplomatic communications with other nations
> without Russia=E2=80=99s prior consent.
>
> Given Georgia=E2=80=99s history of invasions from the south, an alliance
w=
ith
> Russia may have been seen as the only way to discourage or resist
> Persian and Ottoman aggression, while also establi****ng a link to
> Western Europe.[3] In the past, Georgia=E2=80=99s kings had not only
accep=
ted
> formal domination by Turkish and Persian emperors, but had
> occasionally converted to Islam and sojourned at their capitals. Thus
> it was neither a break with Georgian tradition nor a unique
> capitulation of independence for Kartli-Kakheti to trade vassalage for
> peace with a powerful neighbor. However, in the treaty=E2=80=99s
preamble =
and
> article VIII the bond of Orthodox Christianity between Georgians and
> Russians was acknowledged, and Georgia=E2=80=99s primate, the
Catholicos,
> became Russia=E2=80=99s eighth, permanent archbishop and a member of
Russi=
a=E2=80=99s
> Holy Synod.
>
> //////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> After that, look at the list of Georgians who valiantly fought for
> their Russian fatherland in all Russia's wars, starting with
> Bagration:
>
> Pyotr Bagration
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>
> =C2=A0Prince Pyotr Ivanovich Bagration (Russian:
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> Georgian: =E1=83=9E=E1=83=94=E1=83=A2=E1=83=A0=E1=83=94
=E1=83=91=E1=83=90=
=E1=83=92=E1=83=A0=E1=83=90=E1=83=A2=E1=83=98=E1=83=9D=E1=83=9C=E1=83=98,
Pe=
tre Bagrationi) (1765 - September 12,
> 1812) was an ethnic Georgian and descendant of the Georgian royal
> family of the Bagrations, and served as a Russian general. =C2=A0His
fathe=
r
> was a Georgian prince, Colonel Ivane Bagrationi. His brother Roman
> (Revaz) Bagrationi was also a general of the Russian army.
=C2=A0Bagration=
> entered the Russian army in 1782, and served for some years in the
> Caucasus. He participated in the Siege of Ochakov (1788), and in the
> Polish campaign of 1794. His merits were recognized by Suvorov, whom
> he accompanied in the Italian and Swiss campaign of 1799, winning
> particular distinction by the capture of the town of Brescia.
>
> In the wars of 1805 Bagration's achievements appeared even more
> brilliant. With a small rearguard he successfully resisted the
> repeated attacks of forces five times his own numbers at the Battle of
> Hollabrunn (1805), and though half his men fell, the retreat of the
> main army under Kutuzov was thereby secured. At Austerlitz (2 December
> 1805) Bagration fought against the left wing of the French army
> commanded by Murat and Lannes. He fought bravely and obstinately at
> the battles of Eylau (7 February 1807), Heilsberg (11 June 1807) and
> Friedland (14 June 1807).
>
> During the Finnish Campaign of 1808, by a daring march across the
> frozen Gulf of Finland, Bagration captured the =C3=85land Islands, and
in
> 1809 he led the Russian army against the Turks at the battles of
> Rassowa and Tataritza. In 1809 he was promoted to Full General
> ("General ot Infanterii"). His actions during those years led Leo
> Tolstoy to give him a minor role in his novel War and Peace.
>
> In 1812 Bagration commanded the 2nd army of the West, and though
> defeated at Mogilev (23 July 1812), rejoined the main army under
> Barclay de Tolly, and led the left wing at the Battle of Borodino (7
> September 1812), where he received a mortal wound. He died on 12
> September, in the village of Simi, which belonged to his aunt.
>
> Tsar Nicholas I had a monument erected in his honour on the
> battlefield of Borodino. The general's remains were transferred to the
> place where he had fallen and remain there to this day.
>
> Joseph Stalin chose Bagration as the name of the Soviet Union's June
> 22, 1944, successful offensive that defeated the German Army Group
> Centre and drove the forces of Nazi Germany out of what is now
> Belarus. After the war, the Soviet Union annexed northern East
> Prussia, and the until-then German town of Preu=C3=9Fisch
Eylau=E2=80=94sc=
ene of
> the 1807 battle=E2=80=94was renamed Bagrationovsk in his memory.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bagration.jpg
>
As usually, you copy-pasted just parts interesting from your
wiewpoint. May I add facts you "forgot" to put in your post.
In 1783, Russia and the eastern Georgian kingdom of Kartli-Kakheti
signed the Treaty of Georgievsk, according to which Kartli-Kakheti
received protection by Russia. This, however, did not prevent Tbilisi
from being sacked by the Persians in 1795.
On December 22, 1800, Tsar Paul I of Russia, at the alleged request of
the Georgian King George XII, signed the proclamation on the
incor****ation of Georgia (Kartli-Kakheti) within the Russian Empire,
which was finalized by a decree on January 8, 1801,[20][21] and
confirmed by Tsar Alexander I on September 12, 1801.[22][23] The
Georgian envoy in Saint Petersburg reacted with a note of protest that
was presented to the Russian vice-chancellor Prince Kurakin.[24] In
May 1801, Russian General Carl Heinrich Knorring dethroned the
Georgian heir to the throne David Batonishvili and instituted a
government headed by General Ivan Petrovich Lasarev.[25]
The Georgian nobility did not accept the decree until April 1802 when
General Knorring compassed the nobility in Tbilisi's Sioni Cathedral
and forced them to take an oath on the Imperial Crown of Russia. Those
who disagreed were arrested tem****arily.[26]
(wikipedia: Georgia)
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