vello wrote:
> On May 10, 12:51 pm, hol...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Eugene Holman) wrote:
>> In article
>> <edae48a8-9853-4e22-9fb4-5c4aa3f18...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
vello
>>
>> <vellok...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>>> Martin, Putin don't needs the post of president. Say, Stalin rules
>>> without keeping ANY official position.
>> I would disagree with you, Vello.
>>
>> Putin and Medvedev are both intelligent enough to realize that Russia
>> cannot be taken seriously as a major country if it doesnt get its act
>> together with respect to rule of law and a system of government closer
to
>> a western democracy than is now the case.
>>
>> The country is now prosperous enough to concentrate on thee details,
but
>> it is still "Russian/Soviet" enough for them to be somewhat alien and
not
>> yet fully trusted.
>>
>> Putin made a major effort to pull off a first in Russian history: a
>> completely peaceful transfer of power.
>
> What you have in mind with this? there is even less 2power change"
> then back in days Putin gets seat from Yelcin: in both cases not
> electorate but president himself finds successor guy, but Yelcin
> really retires but Putin seemingly will run Russia again, just this
> time from seat of PM.
>
And?
>
> His assumption of the prime
>> minister****p can be interpreted as a cynical power play, but it can
also
>> be understood providing a set of training wheels for the young and
>> relatively inexperienced Mr. Medvedev. Given the Amrican practice of
>> having a Bush dynasty and possibly a Clinton dynasty, this is far from
the
>> most cynical game on the block.
>
> It's up to american voters do they prefere Bushmans or not as
> presidents.
The answer is NO.
> American practice is to ELECT presidents - now it is also
> practice even for Ukraine.
American election system is today to put mild not exactly democracy: one
vote of "superdelegate" in Demparty is worth of 10,000 "ordinary" votes.
Russia is still virgin in this aspect of
> democracy.
That's true and? What exactly you see as a shortcut to "normal"
democracy? That one day Russia wakes up and finds out that God put on
golden plate a system that fits Russia's profile? Russian God is kind
but not that kind. Russians have to work hard, get a black eye and
bleeding nose and upbring such a system themselves - there is no silver
bullet to fix it. What West is suggesting is dope if not heroine. See
Iraq developments.
>> The Russian political elite has learned that in the 21st century power
>> does not come from the barrel of a gun, but from ability to exert
pressure
>> and trow big money around. Unfortunately, thei mentor i this regard is
the
>> United States. The two protracted wars that the United States has been
>> waging in Afghanistan and Iraq have produced nothing tangible, and they
>> have resulted in the erosion of the dollar as well as in America's
>> prestige and clout in the world. One thing that Putin, Medvedev, and
just
>> about everyone else has learned is that the manner in which the United
>> States has been asserting its power and "leader****p" in the world is
the
>> best way to deconstruct any pretentions to superpower status.
>
> That's basically true for sure.
>> On a somewhat different theme, I read in the International Herald
Tribune
>> yesterday that Americans are earning on the average $800/week, that is
to
>> say $41,600/year. Due to the sharp drop in the international value of
the
>> dollar, this is 26,624 euros/year or 2219 euros/month. Draw your own
>> conclusions.
>
> Not too much really (despite twice higher then in Estonia). But there
> is bright side of the same coin also: almost anything seem to be much
> cheaper in States if you convert their prices to euro. Well, now is
> exact time to visit States!!
Think about ordinary people who do not now have enough money for the
basics - cutting down on food, forget about vacation time or any poor
people "luxury" like buying new appliances.
Well - the good news is - Obama is coming and nothing can stop him, I
continue to insist that he is a face on the people's will. And this is
how he connects to the people - "I am not a messiah I am a lens which
will bring all our effort together".
Republicans asslickers are scared to death. Right Henry?
VM.
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