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Re: russia and georgia

by Vladimir Makarenko <vmakard@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 11, 2008 at 11:51 AM

vello wrote:
> On May 11, 7:39 am, Mikhail Medved <mikhail_b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On May 9, 7:12 am, "J. Anderson" <anderso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:IWTUj.1221$Yp.336@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> in regards to peace, i am getting the impression that georgia feels
>>>> abandoned by its western allies right now; first with nato, now with
the
>>>> general indifference their situation is illiciting from outsiders.
>>> Poor Georgia! If it only knew that even Stalin, its own great son,
wanted to
>>> include Georgia in the Russian FSSR instead of giving it the rank of
an SSR!
>>> But luckily Lenin prevented this.
>>> Stalin, wanting to prove that he was a true Russian patriot, was not
at all
>>> pro-Georgian in the 20's and 30's.
>> It's interesting to observe that Abkhazia became part of Georgia as a
>> result of Stalin's ethnic and national policies. It became an
>> autonomous republic within Georgia in 1931, before that it had a
>> special treaty with both Georgia and USSR.
>>
>> Yet our dear Baltic friends, claiming general hatred toward Stalin's
>> national policies, make an exception for Abkhazia, and behave as true
>> stalinists in this instance.
>>
>> Double standards is their second nature.
> 
> Hardly. if you read scb you know I'm for independence of ANY nation.
> My problem in particular region is, can 17% of population make ethnic
> with help of third party and still talk about souvereignity.

Georgians didn't make majority also: lets make it simple - Gamsakhurdia 
screwed up to such degree that initially neutral local Russians and 
Armenians during conflict sided up with aborigines. This cannot be 
fixed. People of Abkhazia found out they can perfectly live without 
Georgia and they are not coming back. Ever.
Those who do not want the place to go to hell stick to the things as 
they are right now - as a saying go - the bad peace is better than a 
good war.
Except I suspect that if Georgia would have succeeded in its Nato drive 
Russia would have provoked a fire just to give Nato an idea what buffer 
zone life may be. I doubt very much Euros would like to dodge bullets 
there and the US has much bigger headaches to take care of.

VM.
 




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russia and georgia
"captain." <  2008-05-08 07:27:45 
Re: russia and georgia
"ElParedon" <  2008-05-08 09:56:13 
Re: russia and georgia
"captain." <  2008-05-09 07:35:35 
Re: russia and georgia
=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-05-09 02:20:28 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-08 09:08:22 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 07:36:26 
Re: russia and georgia
Andrzej Adam Filip <an  2008-05-08 18:16:46 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 07:38:56 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 23:10:36 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-08 23:55:20 
Re: russia and georgia
"captain." <  2008-05-09 08:39:34 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-10 16:35:14 
Re: russia and georgia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-09 14:42:37 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 00:23:03 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 08:44:45 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 08:28:24 
Re: russia and georgia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-09 14:12:12 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-09 06:38:53 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 13:53:34 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-10 16:58:11 
Re: russia and georgia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-10 20:21:41 
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ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 14:08:29 
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ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 14:27:43 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-10 21:39:41 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-11 05:12:35 
Re: russia and georgia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-11 11:51:04 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-11 15:27:33 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-12 15:30:43 
Re: russia and georgia
Andrzej Adam Filip <an  2008-05-12 21:37:36 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 16:48:22 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-12 15:35:31 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-11 19:00:20 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-12 15:54:51 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-11 23:41:01 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 07:52:10 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 08:31:37 
Re: russia and georgia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-12 14:54:43 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 09:06:19 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 09:17:30 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 09:21:51 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 10:36:41 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 10:39:34 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 19:21:29 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 23:32:34 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 23:55:41 

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