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Re: russia and georgia

by Mikhail Medved <mikhail_bear@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 11, 2008 at 03:27 PM

On May 11, 8:12 am, vello <vellok...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 11, 7:39 am, Mikhail Medved <mikhail_b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 7:12 am, "J. Anderson" <anderso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> > >news:IWTUj.1221$Yp.336@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > > in regards to peace, i am getting the impression that georgia
feels
> > > > abandoned by its western allies right now; first with nato, now
with the
> > > > general indifference their situation is illiciting from outsiders.
>
> > > Poor Georgia! If it only knew that even Stalin, its own great son,
wanted to
> > > include Georgia in the Russian FSSR instead of giving it the rank of
an SSR!
> > > But luckily Lenin prevented this.
>
> > > Stalin, wanting to prove that he was a true Russian patriot, was not
at all
> > > pro-Georgian in the 20's and 30's.
>
> > It's interesting to observe that Abkhazia became part of Georgia as a
> > result of Stalin's ethnic and national policies. It became an
> > autonomous republic within Georgia in 1931, before that it had a
> > special treaty with both Georgia and USSR.
>
> > Yet our dear Baltic friends, claiming general hatred toward Stalin's
> > national policies, make an exception for Abkhazia, and behave as true
> > stalinists in this instance.
>
> > Double standards is their second nature.
>
> Hardly. if you read scb you know I'm for independence of ANY nation.
> My problem in particular region is, can 17% of population make ethnic
> with help of third party and still talk about souvereignity.

Then your problem is insufficient understanding. Breakaway Abkhazia
has never proclaimed mono-ethnic Abkhaz culture as their official
policy.

Abkhazia has always been a multi-national republic. And high
percentage of ethnic Georgians is deceptive: in fact, nobody knows for
sure what the real percentage was since many other nationals were
registered as Georgians under the Tbilisi rule. I traveled in Abkhazia
extensively in the early 80s and I met many people who complained that
they were officially registered as Georgians while, in fact, they were
Mengrels, Swans, Abkhaz and others.

The fact is, collectively, the people of Abkhazia want to live outside
Georgia. And I don't see compelling reasons why they shouldn't be
given a right to do so.
 




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russia and georgia
"captain." <  2008-05-08 07:27:45 
Re: russia and georgia
"ElParedon" <  2008-05-08 09:56:13 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 07:35:35 
Re: russia and georgia
=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-05-09 02:20:28 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-08 09:08:22 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 07:36:26 
Re: russia and georgia
Andrzej Adam Filip <an  2008-05-08 18:16:46 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 07:38:56 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 23:10:36 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-08 23:55:20 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 08:39:34 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-10 16:35:14 
Re: russia and georgia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-09 14:42:37 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 00:23:03 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 08:44:45 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 08:28:24 
Re: russia and georgia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-09 14:12:12 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-09 06:38:53 
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ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 13:53:34 
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"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-10 16:58:11 
Re: russia and georgia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-10 20:21:41 
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ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 14:08:29 
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ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 14:27:43 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-10 21:39:41 
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vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-11 05:12:35 
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Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-11 11:51:04 
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Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-11 15:27:33 
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"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-12 15:30:43 
Re: russia and georgia
Andrzej Adam Filip <an  2008-05-12 21:37:36 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 16:48:22 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-12 15:35:31 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-11 19:00:20 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-12 15:54:51 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-11 23:41:01 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 07:52:10 
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vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 08:31:37 
Re: russia and georgia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-12 14:54:43 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 09:06:19 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 09:17:30 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 09:21:51 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 10:36:41 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 10:39:34 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 19:21:29 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 23:32:34 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 23:55:41 

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