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Re: russia and georgia

by vello <vellokala@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 12, 2008 at 07:52 AM

On May 12, 1:27=A0am, Mikhail Medved <mikhail_b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 11, 8:12 am, vello <vellok...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
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>
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> > On May 11, 7:39 am, Mikhail Medved <mikhail_b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > On May 9, 7:12 am, "J. Anderson" <anderso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:IWTUj.1221$Yp.336@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > in regards to peace, i am getting the impression that georgia
feel=
s
> > > > > abandoned by its western allies right now; first with nato, now
wi=
th the
> > > > > general indifference their situation is illiciting from
outsiders.=

>
> > > > Poor Georgia! If it only knew that even Stalin, its own great son,
w=
anted to
> > > > include Georgia in the Russian FSSR instead of giving it the rank
of=
 an SSR!
> > > > But luckily Lenin prevented this.
>
> > > > Stalin, wanting to prove that he was a true Russian patriot, was
not=
 at all
> > > > pro-Georgian in the 20's and 30's.
>
> > > It's interesting to observe that Abkhazia became part of Georgia as
a
> > > result of Stalin's ethnic and national policies. It became an
> > > autonomous republic within Georgia in 1931, before that it had a
> > > special treaty with both Georgia and USSR.
>
> > > Yet our dear Baltic friends, claiming general hatred toward Stalin's
> > > national policies, make an exception for Abkhazia, and behave as
true
> > > stalinists in this instance.
>
> > > Double standards is their second nature.
>
> > Hardly. if you read scb you know I'm for independence of ANY nation.
> > My problem in particular region is, can 17% of population make ethnic
> > with help of third party and still talk about souvereignity.
>
> Then your problem is insufficient understanding. Breakaway Abkhazia
> has never proclaimed mono-ethnic Abkhaz culture as their official
> policy.
>
> Abkhazia has always been a multi-national republic. And high
> percentage of ethnic Georgians is deceptive: in fact, nobody knows for
> sure what the real percentage was since many other nationals were
> registered as Georgians under the Tbilisi rule. I traveled in Abkhazia
> extensively in the early 80s and I met many people who complained that
> they were officially registered as Georgians while, in fact, they were
> Mengrels, Swans, Abkhaz and others.
>
> The fact is, collectively, the people of Abkhazia want to live outside
> Georgia. And I don't see compelling reasons why they shouldn't be
> given a right to do so.

Well, almost 50% from total population was expelled with the help of
third country. It means if there is 5-10% left who wants to live as
part of Georgia all thing is without any moral or juridical basis.




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russia and georgia
"captain." <  2008-05-08 07:27:45 
Re: russia and georgia
"ElParedon" <  2008-05-08 09:56:13 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 07:35:35 
Re: russia and georgia
=?windows-1252?Q?MTRP=99?  2008-05-09 02:20:28 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-08 09:08:22 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 07:36:26 
Re: russia and georgia
Andrzej Adam Filip <an  2008-05-08 18:16:46 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 07:38:56 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 23:10:36 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-08 23:55:20 
Re: russia and georgia
"captain." <  2008-05-09 08:39:34 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-10 16:35:14 
Re: russia and georgia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-09 14:42:37 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 00:23:03 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 08:44:45 
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"captain." <  2008-05-09 08:28:24 
Re: russia and georgia
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-09 14:12:12 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-09 06:38:53 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 13:53:34 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-10 16:58:11 
Re: russia and georgia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-10 20:21:41 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 14:08:29 
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ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 14:27:43 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-10 21:39:41 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-11 05:12:35 
Re: russia and georgia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-11 11:51:04 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-11 15:27:33 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-12 15:30:43 
Re: russia and georgia
Andrzej Adam Filip <an  2008-05-12 21:37:36 
Re: russia and georgia
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 16:48:22 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-12 15:35:31 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-11 19:00:20 
Re: russia and georgia
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyck  2008-05-12 15:54:51 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-11 23:41:01 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 07:52:10 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 08:31:37 
Re: russia and georgia
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-12 14:54:43 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 09:06:19 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 09:17:30 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 09:21:51 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 10:36:41 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 10:39:34 
Re: russia and georgia
Mikhail Medved <mikhai  2008-05-12 19:21:29 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 23:32:34 
Re: russia and georgia
vello <vellokala@[EMAI  2008-05-12 23:55:41 

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