On May 11, 6:51=A0pm, Vladimir Makarenko <vmak...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> vello wrote:
>
> > Hardly. if you read scb you know I'm for independence of ANY nation.
> > My problem in particular region is, can 17% of population make ethnic
cl=
eansing on others
> > with help of third party and still talk about souvereignity.
>
> Georgians didn't make majority also: lets make it simple - Gamsakhurdia
> screwed up to such degree that initially neutral local Russians and
> Armenians during conflict sided up with aborigines. This cannot be
> fixed. People of Abkhazia found out they can perfectly live without
> Georgia and they are not coming back. Ever.
It may well be as you say. But it may be also this way that some third
country (Turkey ? :-)) pushes minority into action against maiority
promising (and giving) essential military help to rebels - or you
think 80 000 abkhazians defeated Georgia by themselves?
In 1989 there was 525 000 people in Abkhazia, 240 000 georgians, 93
000 abkhazians, 76 500 armenians and 75 000 russians. In 2003 there is
216 000 people in total, 46 000 georgians, 94 500 abkhazians, 44 800
armenians and 23 400 russians. As you see, 3/4 of russians and almost
half of armenians are also gone. Hardly they leave to sup****t your
wiew that " initially neutral local Russians and Armenians during
conflict sided up with aborigines" - they fled "anonymous abkhaz-
friendly army" almost as fast as georgians.
So, living in exact moment we can say more then 50% from Abkhaz
population is expelled (80% from georgians, 66% from russians) so no
one can say there is something to do with "the will of Abkhazian
people" - maiority of them are outside Abkhazia for now.
More bright aspect is that historical owners of that piece of land,
abkhazians, are again owners (and clear maiority) on their homeland. A
good parallel would be creation of Israel giving them back homeland
lost 2000 years ago.
> Those who do not want the place to go to hell stick to the things as
> they are right now - as a saying go - the bad peace is better than a
> good war.
> Except I suspect that if Georgia would have succeeded in its Nato drive
> Russia would have provoked a fire just to give Nato an idea what buffer
> zone life may be. I doubt very much Euros would like to dodge bullets
> there and the US has much bigger headaches to take care of.
>
> VM
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