On May 12, 10:52=A0am, vello <vellok...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 12, 1:27=A0am, Mikhail Medved <mikhail_b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On May 11, 8:12 am, vello <vellok...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On May 11, 7:39 am, Mikhail Medved <mikhail_b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On May 9, 7:12 am, "J. Anderson" <anderso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > "captain." <spammersmust...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > in regards to peace, i am getting the impression that georgia
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els
> > > > > > abandoned by its western allies right now; first with nato,
now =
with the
> > > > > > general indifference their situation is illiciting from
outsider=
s.
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> > > > > Poor Georgia! If it only knew that even Stalin, its own great
son,=
wanted to
> > > > > include Georgia in the Russian FSSR instead of giving it the
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of an SSR!
> > > > > But luckily Lenin prevented this.
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> > > > > Stalin, wanting to prove that he was a true Russian patriot, was
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ot at all
> > > > > pro-Georgian in the 20's and 30's.
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> > > > It's interesting to observe that Abkhazia became part of Georgia
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a
> > > > result of Stalin's ethnic and national policies. It became an
> > > > autonomous republic within Georgia in 1931, before that it had a
> > > > special treaty with both Georgia and USSR.
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> > > > Yet our dear Baltic friends, claiming general hatred toward
Stalin's=
> > > > national policies, make an exception for Abkhazia, and behave as
tru=
e
> > > > stalinists in this instance.
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> > > > Double standards is their second nature.
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> > > Hardly. if you read scb you know I'm for independence of ANY nation.
> > > My problem in particular region is, can 17% of population make
ethnic
> > > with help of third party and still talk about souvereignity.
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> > Then your problem is insufficient understanding. Breakaway Abkhazia
> > has never proclaimed mono-ethnic Abkhaz culture as their official
> > policy.
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> > Abkhazia has always been a multi-national republic. And high
> > percentage of ethnic Georgians is deceptive: in fact, nobody knows for
> > sure what the real percentage was since many other nationals were
> > registered as Georgians under the Tbilisi rule. I traveled in Abkhazia
> > extensively in the early 80s and I met many people who complained that
> > they were officially registered as Georgians while, in fact, they were
> > Mengrels, Swans, Abkhaz and others.
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> > The fact is, collectively, the people of Abkhazia want to live outside
> > Georgia. And I don't see compelling reasons why they shouldn't be
> > given a right to do so.
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> Well, almost 50% from total population was expelled with the help of
> third country. It means if there is 5-10% left who wants to live as
> part of Georgia all thing is without any moral or juridical basis.
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Can you be a little more specific about "the help of third country"?
Because Abkhazians accuse Russia of not helping them.
BTW, more than 50% of Russian population left Abkhazia during the war
started by Georgian criminals. Criminals without any quote marks as a
big part of Georgian "invasion force" consisted of "pardoned" inmates,
and their two "commanders" were known criminals, one of which was a
notorious "thief in law". Does it mean that Russia worked hard on
expelling Russians from Abkhazia?
BTW2, most of those "expelled" now live in Russia.
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