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Re: Putin's gambit

by holman@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eugene Holman) May 17, 2008 at 08:57 AM

In article
<6052a7ea-3dda-4fe1-801a-71fede0b5391@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, The
Black Monk <ch.mon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

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> 
> What is particularly "ultraconservative" about Nazi Germany?
> Conservatism was opposed to both nationalism and socialism, you know.

Nazism was conservative in the sense that the driving force behind it was
the desire to restore the state of affairs that was thought to have
existed before Jews, Bolsheviks, racial half-breeds, and other racial
enemies had polluted and corrupted an allegedly once purely Aryan society
to further their own anti-Aryan ends. Killing Jews and eliminating other
racially undesirable elements by euthanasia or forced sterilizaion was
called "cleansing". You can't "cleanse" something if it hasn't once been
"pristine", after which it was "dirtied". The "Drang nach Osten" as well
as the annexation of Austria and the occupation of the Low Countries,
Norway, Denmark, Poland, the Bohemian lands, and the northern part of
France was justified by history: these had once been part of Germania
major, either autochthonously or by military conquest, but had
subsequently fallen into the hands of inferior races.

The most committed Nazis rejected Christianity as a cynical Jewish scheme
to make Aryans accept a Jewish god, worship a dysfunctional Jewish family,
and accept such non-Aryan behavioral norms as mercy, compassion, and
justice. Odinism, the worship of pre-Christian Germanic gods and the
values they represented, was a part of dedicated Nazism.

On a more practical level, a clearly ultra-conservative aspect of Nazism
is demonstrated by the manner in which they lowered the unemployment
figures. In principle, married women were not allowed to work outside the
household. *Kinder, Küche und Kirche* was to be their lot.

Hitler was a small-town boy who was appalled by the *degradation* that he
encountered when he first visited Vienna and Munich. In many senses, the
political philosophy that he and those of similar mind-set developed was a
recipe for undoing this degradation by radical means so that proper early
19th century petit-bourgeois small-town norms would be re-established and
prevail.

Nazism was an ultraconservative, restorationist, and purgative ideology.

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Regards,
Eugene Holman




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holman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-10 13:10:03 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-10 03:57:28 
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holman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-11 12:43:03 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-11 07:30:44 
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holman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-11 18:20:02 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-11 10:51:48 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-16 05:28:41 
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The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-16 10:12:45 
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holman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-17 08:57:47 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-25 13:05:47 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-25 22:56:05 
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ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-25 23:00:21 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-25 23:22:11 
Re: Our Generation's Spanish Civil War [Was: Re: Putin's gambit]
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-05-26 00:02:38 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-26 03:38:46 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-26 06:59:41 
Re: Our Generation's Spanish Civil War [Was: Re: Putin's gambit]
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-05-27 20:22:33 
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=?ISO-8859-13?Q?P=E7teris  2008-05-26 07:02:41 
Re: Our Generation's Spanish Civil War [Was: Re: Putin's gambit]
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-27 00:21:20 
Re: Our Generation's Spanish Civil War [Was: Re: Putin's gambit]
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-26 21:40:51 
Re: Our Generation's Spanish Civil War [Was: Re: Putin's gambit]
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-26 21:51:29 
Re: Our Generation's Spanish Civil War [Was: Re: Putin's gambit]
"J. Anderson" &  2008-05-27 12:33:31 
Re: Our Generation's Spanish Civil War [Was: Re: Putin's gambit]
The Black Monk <ch.mon  2008-05-27 19:37:19 
Re: Our Generation's Spanish Civil War [Was: Re: Putin's gambit]
Dmitry <dmitrijsfedoto  2008-05-30 12:17:39 
Re: Our Generation's Spanish Civil War [Was: Re: Putin's gambit]
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-06-01 16:47:23 
Re: Our Generation's Spanish Civil War [Was: Re: Putin's gambit]
ostap_bender_1900@[EMAIL   2008-06-01 16:53:51 

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