On Sun, 18 May 2008 17:20:06 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
<vmakard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Maris wrote:
>> In spite of doing a search on 'Cezary Wojcik',on the magazine's
>> website didn't find the 15th May article. Am I doing something wrong?
>
>I couldn't find it too. Well, my Polish to put mildly became "rusty" - I
>hardly can make reading comprehension anymore, it was centuries ago when
>I tried to learn Polish - in the USSR Polish magazines were regarded as
>"free press". The one I revered was "Przecrui" (?). Besides a lot of
>sci-fi and detective books were easily available. That's how I first
>time read Raymond Chandler. In Polish, with a dictionary aside.
>Anyway, there are two ways out- first and ugly - try to Bablefish from
>Russian into English, disgusting but you'll get the idea in the text.
>Second, more "expensive" but less probable - this Pole who occasionally
>shows up on scb, his name is Andrej Phillip (?)- maybe he can dig the
>original article.
>The article itself as I said in my opinion to EZ is rather standard
>expression of displeasure of ex pats towards the old country: "oh, you
>guys suck, you don't take shower as often as you must, you smoke, your
>streets are dirty but look how snow white my ****rt is. And when was last
>time you savages had a gay parade? Besides you are so poor - it's really
>disgusting. And no no I don't have any change to spare to fix hospital
>for children."
>Been there, done that.
>The only point he makes - acceptance to the old core EU came not as a
>gift from a rich uncle, but at a price which the poor paid the rich:
>providing dirty cheap labor and unsaturated markets. But the story isn't
>over - that is his biggest mistake on the situation: Eastern Europe is
>going to come back big time, the bigger one entrance than in Mongolian
>or Ottoman times. Facts points so.
>
>VM.
By ex pats does he mean those who arrived in the UK immediately after
the war or the more recent arrivals (who may be getting above their
'station'!)? We recently had a a series of programs on the beeb here
examining the situation of the new immigrants. In one of them, an
elderly Polish lady was quite dismissive about the new arrivals. whom
she regarded as transients, who would not be building their life in
the UK. She may be wrong about that - a lot of them are building
their life in the UK but not really integrating nonetheless. I think
the new ex pats are not all of one hue either. My Latvian PhD tenant
is quite dismissive of the Latvian gastarbeiter community.
I suppose the phenomenon has been seen in the Latvian community too.
The community that went West after the war was essentially a middle
class one - the new arrivals are somewhat classless although tending
towards the bottom end. So, some tensions are inevitable.
Maris
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