On 26 Maijs, 10:02, ostap_bender_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On May 25, 11:22 pm, P=C4=93teris Cedri=C5=86=C5=A1 (Peteris Cedrins)
>
>
>
> <cedr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > On 26 Maijs, 09:00, ostap_bender_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
> > > On May 25, 1:05 pm, P=C3=A7teris Cedri=C3=B2=C3=B0 (Peteris Cedrins)
>
> > > <cedr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > Terry Glavin at the National Post -- an excerpt:
>
> > > This is an intersting analogy, but I don't understand whom the
author
> > > equates Bush to: Hitler or Stalin? And when did USA bomb an Iraqi
city=
> > > the wqay Hitler bombed Guernica? And what is he equating Al Ghraib
to?=
> > > Buchenwald?
>
> > > > "This is not just 'George Bush's war.' This is a liberation
struggle=
..
> > > > It's a war of resistance against clerical fascism, against the
most
> > > > unspeakably brutal kind of misogyny, against tyranny, slavery,
> > > > illiteracy and oppression. Over the past six years, poll after
poll
> > > > has provided unequivocal, empirical evidence that the Afghan
people
> > > > want us there to help them win this fight. And the people are
winnin=
g.
>
> > > > "In 2004, only one in 10 Afghans had access to medical services.
Now=
> > > > it's eight in 10. Three out of every four children under the age
of
> > > > five have been immunized against childhood diseases. There are
> > > > millions of girls attending school now. More than 100,000 women
have=
> > > > begun their own small businesses with micro-loans administered by
th=
e
> > > > World Bank -- that sinister institution we progressives are
supposed=
> > > > to despise.
>
> > > > "Afghanistan is now an embryonic democracy, and one of every four
> > > > Afghan MPs is a woman. Just a few years ago, Afghan women weren't
> > > > allowed out of doors unless they were accompanied by a man. Under
th=
e
> > > > Taliban, you weren't allowed to watch television, but now there
are
> > > > seven national television stations, and all sorts of little
> > > > newspapers, and 10 universities.
>
> > > > "None of this would have happened if the so-called 'anti-war'
argume=
nt
> > > > had prevailed. If the ISAF armies just packed up and left, it
would =
be
> > > > back to the Dark Ages again.
>
> > > > "Still, the Afghan people want more, and faster. Last month, to
> > > > protest the snail's pace of their government's efforts to bring
arme=
d
> > > > militants to heel, workers in the Herat region launched a five-day
> > > > general strike that came close to shutting down the entire
province.=
> > > > What did Canada's left contribute to that effort? Nothing.
>
> > > > "Last November, 10-year-old Alaina Podmorow got together with 18
of
> > > > her fellow Grade 5 pupils in British Columbia's Okanagan Valley,
and=
> > > > they raised enough money to pay the salaries of five Afghan
> > > > schoolteachers for a whole year. How is it that in doing this
simple=
> > > > thing, Alaina and her young comrades, in the space of a few weeks,
> > > > made a greater contribution to the liberation of the Afghan people
> > > > than the combined efforts of the NDP, the Canadian Labour Congress
a=
nd
> > > > the Canadian Federation of Students, over the past seven years?
>
> > > > "It's a long story. It's at least partly because cultural
relativism=
> > > > has eaten away at the principle of universal rights -- which was
onc=
e
> > > > the bedrock of left-wing politics --and a crude and paranoid anti-
> > > > Americanism has come to serve as a substitute for rational,
> > > > progressive analysis. By Sept. 11, 2001, the politics of
solidarity
> > > > had been eclipsed by the politics of the counterculture, and so
the
> > > > main ranks of the left settled into a comfortable and familiar
> > > > Sixties' narrative: It's the Third World vs. American empire."
>
> > > >http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=3D533347
>
> > > > I got there through "But, I am a Liberal!" --
>
> > > >http://butiamaliberal.blogspot.com/2008/05/internationalism.html
>
> > > > Regards,
> > > > /P
>
> > > >http://lettonica.blogspot.com/
>
> > Wrong country, Karlamov.
>
> Then please explain the analogy between the Spanish Civil War and the
> Invasion and Occupation of Iraq. Here is a summary of both:
>
> 1. In Spain, a left-wing block was democratically and freely elected.
> The right wing didn't like this and, aided by Hitler's Nazi Germany,
> started a civil war. Stalin came to the aid of the legal Spanish
> government. Western countries declared their neutrality in the
> conflict, hoping that Hitler wins. Communists, anti-Nazis, and
> socialists from all over the world joined USSR in defending Spain, but
> in vain: they were defeated by Franco and Hitler, and a fascist
> dictator****p was installed for the next 40-50 years. Those Americans,
> who fought as volunteers in Spain defending democracy, returned home
> to America, where they were persecuted by the FBI and other government
> agencies for fighting on the wrong side.
>
> 2. USA lied to the world that Saddam had WMDs and was allies with Al
> Qaeda, and invaded Iraq under this pretext, conquered iraq, disbanded
> police and army, which led to a complete lawless chaos and a brutal
> civil war, in which about 1 million people have perished so far. The
> Pope refers to these actions as the "humanitarian disaster".
>
> So, what's the analogy between the two?
The article is about Afghanistan, not Iraq. As I indicated earlier, I
am not interested in hopping all over the space-time continuum with
you.
/P
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