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Re: Indians fall flat when it comes to real prosperity

by nkdatta2465@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 8, 2008 at 04:00 PM

On May 7, 9:58=A0pm, Javed Iqbal Kaleem <JavedIqbalKal...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> These are a few mis-guided elements who do get rejected in polls.
> Pakistan will soon construct a large dam to store its huge water
> resources and produce electricity.
>
> Javed Iqbal Kaleem
>

http://www.dawn.com/2008/04/23/top9.htm

DAWN, Karachi. Pakistan
April 23, 2008  Wednesday  Rabi-us-Sani 16, 1429


Kalabagh controversy hits ruling coalition in NA
By Raja Asghar

ISLAMABAD, April 22: The controversy over Kalabagh dam project
suddenly became hot in the National Assembly on Tuesday on provincial
lines and even seemed straining the ruling coalition during a debate
on the country=92s prevailing water and power crisis.

Across the party lines, some members of the lower house from Sindh
province reacted angrily to suggestions from their Punjabi colleagues
in support of the presently shelved plan to build the big dam at
Kalabagh in their province on the river Indus.Most opposition against
the project, which had been the favourite of President Pervez
Musharraf in recent years, came from government leader Pakistan
People=92s Party (PPP) and support from its main coalition ally Pakistan
Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N), whose members joined forces with their
one-time rival and former Punjab chief minister Manzoor Ahmed Wattoo.

The acrimony in the debate, due to be wound up on Wednesday,
contrasted with a near unanimity seen in the house over forming a
special committee to investigate alleged wrongdoing in the allotment
of some prime railways land in Lahore to a golf club under the
previous government and in passing a resolution urging the government
to take steps to ban the use of plastic shopping bags and encourage
biodegradable alternatives.

=93You can name Kalabagh dam white dam, green dam, Frontier dam or Sindh
dam =85 but it must be considered,=94 Mr Wattoo said amid chants of =93no,
no=94 from several PPP members as well as some opposition members from
Sindh as he pleaded for building big dams besides small ones to
overcome the country=92s power and irrigation water shortages.

=93We will not let Kalabagh dam be built,=94 PPP=92s Shagufta Jamani said
angrily after PML-N member Chaudhry Ejaz Virk picked up Mr Wattoo=92s
theme by saying the proposed dam could be called =93Quaid-i-Azam Dam=94 as
a way of appeasing its opponents, who actually argue against the
project over fears it would submerge large swathes of fertile Peshawar
valley in the North West Frontier Province and deprive Sindh and
Balochistan provinces of their due shares of the Indus waters.

Ms Jamani and some of her other colleagues argued the project should
not be taken up after resolutions passed by the provincial assemblies
of Sindh, NWFP and Balochistan against it and called for implementing
alternative plans.

Syed Asif Hussain of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) went to the
extent of describing advocacy of Kalabagh dam as unpatriotic,
provoking a protest from a PML-N member, while senior PPP members Syed
Zafar Ali Shah and Mir Hazar Khan Bijarani said Sindh=92s objection to
the project stemmed from its rights as lower riparian and views of
experts.

PML-N=92s Mohammad Bashir Virk said Kalabagh dam was the most suitable
project supported by necessary studies that could add 3,600 megawatts
of electricity but its opponents spoke of =93non-existent=94 alternatives.

RAILWAY LAND: Earlier, the house first passed a resolution moved by
four ruling coalition members calling for a government investigation
of =93matters of allotment=94 of railways land in Lahore to a golf club on
nominal prices during the period 2001-2007 and for =93taking legal
action against the responsible persons=94.

But on suggestions from Railways Minister Sardar Mehtab Ahmad Khan,
Law and Parliamentary Affairs Minister Faooq Naek and several other
members from both the treasury and opposition benches, the house
passed another resolution to form a special committee for what some of
them said a committee of the previous house was not allowed to do.

Deputy Speaker Faisal Karim Kundi, who was chairing the house at the
time, was authorised to name the committee=92s members after consulting
all parties in the house.

The railways minister agreed with the movers of the resolution that a
prime value land had been allotted for a =93none-core=94 job to a golf
club on nominal prices, while his predecessor, Ghaus Bakhsh Maher,
also wanted a special committee probe into the matter that one member
traced to 2001 when he said retired Lt.-Gen Javed Ashraf Qazi was
President Musharraf=92s railways minister.

One member of the previously ruling Pakistan Muslim League, Sheikh
Waqas Akram, called the move courageous after efforts for a probe by a
committee of the previous house was frustrated by a group of powerful
people and then-minister of state for railways Ishaq Khakwani had even
lost his job over the issue.

=93This group has very long hands =85 and it extends from the military to
bureaucracy,=94 he said about people involved and added that the golf
club was not their only project.



> > On May 7, 3:53 pm, Tambi Dude <tambid...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > You are traitor of Muslim Ummah and =A0Bangladesh . You are
licking =
toes
> > > > of Indians who are bent upon killing Bangladeshis daily. By
blocking=

> > > > water of Bangladeshi
> > > > rivers, they want to starve you. But as a shameless beggar you are
> > > > licking their toes. =A0I do not care for such conscienceless
persons=
..
>
> > > > Javed Iqbal
>
> > Punjab has been depriving Sindh of water for a long time. Pakistan
> > wants to make new and large Dams and canals for retired army officials
> > on Indus river. Kalabagh dam & Greater Thal canal are good examples.
> > There is a petition on line that can be signed to protest the
> > injustice to Sindh.
>
> > Go to:http://www.petitiononline.com/sindhu/petition.html
>
> > Here's the petition:
>
> > Stop illegal constructions of Kalabagh dam & Greater Thal canal
>
> > To: =A0World Bank, Asian Bank & UNO
>
> > Pakistan wants to make new and large Dams and canals for retired army
> > officials on Indus river. Due to atrocities of province of Punjab now
> > Sindh is facing deadly shortage of water. In fact Punjab theft the
> > water of Sindh continously through centuries. In 1945 an accord was
> > made in the period of Birtish rule. Now Punjab doing human rights and
> > accord violations and making forcibly with the help of army, more
> > large Dams and Canals on Indus river. "The term 'historic share' of
> > water has no history. This term has never been used even in the
> > context of the 1991 Water Accord. However, when the deliberations on
> > the Water Accord were going on in 1991, the apportionment of water
> > between Punjab and Sindh had to be decided. The committee decided to
> > take the average of water apportioned between Punjab and Sindh from
> > 1977 to 1982 for the sake of an exercise just to determine the amount
> > required to be apportioned. But irrigation officials of the Punjab
> > regarded it as their 'historic share' of water. According to the
> > calculation of the so-called 'historic' right on water, the Punjab was
> > awarded 48 MAF while Sindh got 46 MAF. But, when the 1991 Water Accord
> > was finalised, Sindh was awarded 48.76 MAF of water. It is besides the
> > point that the Punjab got a greater quantity of water in the accord,
> > 55.94 MAF (almost 56 MAP.) Even then, the Punjab was not happy to see
> > that as per the 1991 Water Accord, Sindh was drawing more water than
> > the Punjab had been consuming during the years 1977 to 1982, i.e., 48
> > MAF. Basing the distribution of waters on the 'averages' of
> > exaggerated flow of the Sindhu Darya, was bound to lead to a major
> > confrontation between the upper and lower riparian. The waters flowing
> > down the Sindhu vacillates between 104 MAF and 80 MAF. How can
> > apportionment be based on the average of such a wide difference in
> > real flows. Surely, water apportionment depends on need. As the Sindhu
> > Darya is the only source of water for Sindh, this province must be
> > given its actual share specially during times of severe shortages.
>
> > The Punjab, during the downswing of the cycle, has complete control of
> > the waters in the Jhelum and Chenab rivers. In addition, the upper
> > riparian have sweet ground water reserves of 300 MAF which they can
> > draw on in times of shortages. Taking this reality into account, the
> > 1945 Sindh-Punjab water agreement gave 75 per cent of the Darya's
> > waters to Sindh. The Punjab, through its infamous link canals, could
> > only draw water from the Sindhu during the peak flood season. That is
> > all. Last year, during Nawaz Sharif's chauvinist rule, his province
> > unilaterally opened the link canals in late May - early June which
> > negatively affected agricultural output income in Sindh. This should
> > have given the upper riparians enough sense to see the logic in
> > the1945 Water Agreement. But, then, theft based on greed has its own
> > perverted logic, which if repeated often enough will be believed.(By:
> > Anwar Pirzado)
> > The quantity of even 10 maf provisionally allocated under the accord
> > is available only for 24 out of 72 years as calculated under the
> > title, 'Kharif availability'. Thus it is clear that the required
> > quantity of water for the substance of the environment cannot become
> > available under the circumstances. It is not possible that this
> > position can be improved by denying the allocations/commitments of the
> > operational projects or by leaving the storages unfilled. However, it
> > is important that at least further deterioration in the ecological
> > conditions must be prevented. The best that can be done to save the
> > environment from complete devastation is to plan future projects so
> > that the minimum required discharge of 300,000 cusecs is available for
> > outflow to sea at least for as much time as it is available, after
> > meeting the current Kharif demand. (By: Zulfiqar Halepoto)
>
> > Pakistan grows around 18 million tons of wheat per year and imports
> > roughly 2 million tons. The average yield per acre is 0.81 tons
> > against 0.97 tons in neighbouring India and 0.87 tons for the world.
> > So is it for each and every crop in Pakistan. A few administrative
> > steps like streamlining the supply of quality seed at proper time;
> > sparing a pittance for research on improved seeds in our excellent
> > agricultural universities; eliminating the use of spurious pesticides,
> > making fertilizers available at affordable rates and mounting a
> > dedicated training campaign for our Haris in the proper use of
> > pesticides and fertilizers, could increase the yield per acre, while
> > costing only a fraction of the Rs. 500 billion needed for the Kalabagh
> > dam. And this is only the empirical side. The effect on our agrarian
> > society and agricultural economy when all these concerted inputs are
> > applied at the designated sectors will be tremendous. Of the 105 MAF
> > at present made available at the canal heads an estimated 60% is lost
> > through evaporation and seepage as follows: 15 MAF is lost in major
> > river beds, 10 MAF in canals and minors, 10 MAF in watercourses and 25
> > MAF on farms. (By: Abrar Kazi)"
>
> > We strongly appeal to World bank, Asian bank & UNO, help us to stop
> > atrocities and violations of accord of 1945 from the side of Punjab.
> > If kalabagh dam and Greater Thal canal will be build, Sindh province
> > will be in danger, due to destruction of Indus delta and deadly
> > shortage of water.
>
> > To sign the petition,
visit:http://www.petitiononline.com/sindhu/petitio=
n-sign.html?
>
> > > That's all a true muslim is capable of. Declare other muslim as a
> > > traitor
> > > and if possible behead him. No wonder Javed told me that he hates
> > > Irfan Hussain of Dawm, Reza Azmi, Pervez Hoodhboy etc.
>
> > > Why would India block Bangladesh water. If we had to do it we would
> > > done to Pakistan. Remember all Pak rivers start from Indian kashmir.
> > > Kahani khatam. Pakistan over.
> > > I wish we do that. pakistan can go to seventh century arab days when
> > > they use to clean their ass by stones.
>




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