On May 9, 11:38=A0pm, nkdatta2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 9, 11:16=A0am, Javed Iqbal Kaleem <JavedIqbalKal...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
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> > This is an old data.
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> And why is it old data? Because Jamaat-e-Islaami said so?
>
> Transparency Internationa has been issuing an update of its re****t
> every year. The data that I posted is for the year 2007. And now that
> it is 2008, we'll have an update of the data in the fall of 2008.
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> > And it is never considered =A0authentic because it
> > is a CIA sponsored site.
>
> And who told you that it is a CIA sponsored site? Jamaat-e-Islaami's
> Aameer?
>
> Transparency International's methodologies are quite transparent.
> Javed Iqbal Kaleem can find out exactly how and when the data was
> collected and how they were analyzed and who did the analysis. That's
> about as transparent as it gets.
>
> In fact, if it were indeed CIA sponsored, Pakistan's corruption would
> have been white-washed because, whatever General Pervez Musharraf
> might do on the sly, he has been doing his best to be on the right
> side of CIA.
>
> > Why you are shying away from the latest
> > figures of corruption quoted by me. Can you dare refute those figures?
> > Can you prove them wrong.
>
> I don't have to refute figures by something that calls itself
> Alibaba!! And how exactly did this Alibaba manage to get data about
> Swiss bank deposits? Is it in CIA's payroll?
>
> Transparency International makes it very clear how the data is
> obtained. In Pakistan, for example, there is Transparency
> International Pakistan to do the data collection.
>
> > If not, then admit that India is by far the
> > most corrupt country in the world =A0and paid agents like you are
> > handmaid of the ruling cl***** in India. Shame on you! Can somebody be
> > so callous for ones own countrymen?
>
> > Javed Iqbal Kaleem
>
> Javed Iqbal Kaleem's desperation is all too apparent if he must quote
> something like Alibaba over Transparency International!!
>
> Transparency International provides transparency regarding source of
> data, methodology of coming up with CPI and identities of scholars who
> did that. No one needs to refute Kaleem's puerile temper tantrums.
>
> Alibaba, my foot!
alibaba is a chinese trade site,the figures quoted about black money
is quoted by a girl named Depali Bak**** alias nick
Anshu,god knows where she got the figures,there is no way of
authentication the same,for all i know she must have dreamt it up.
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/288746/Black_Money_in_Swiss_bank.htm
the profile of the author anshu is.
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> > > Transparency International is Berlin based and is the
internationally
> > > acknowledged authority on the subject of corruption. Pakistan has
been=
> > > quite consistently recognized by it as among the most corrupt
natiions=
> > > on earth.
>
> > > In fact, the actual corruption in Pakistan is way worse than
revealed
> > > by Transparency because Pakistan's center of corruption is its
> > > military which has powerful allies who have a vested interest to
hide
> > > the full extent of Pakistan's exceedingly high level of corruption.
>
> > > As is to be expected, nations ruled under military boots usually
tend
> > > to be more corrupt than those that have a tradition of rule by
> > > democracy where peaceful transitions in governments is the norm
rather=
> > > than the exception.
>
> > > In South Asia, Pakistan and Afghanistan are significantly more
corrupt=
> > > than, say, India & Sri Lanka. Here's Pakistan's standing in
corruption=
> > > according to Berlin based Transparency International in terms of the
> > > cpi (Corruption Perception Index):
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> > >http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2007
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> > > TI 2007 Corruption Perceptions Index
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> > > Nation =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rank =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 CPI
> > > Denmark =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.6
> > > Japan =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A017 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A07.6
> > > USA =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A020 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A07.2
> > > Israel =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 30 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06.4
> > > India =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A072 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03.5
> > > China =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 72 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03.5
> > > Sri Lanka =A0 =A0 94 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03.2
> > > Iran =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0131 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02.5
> > > Nepal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 131 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02.5
> > > Pakistan =A0 =A0 138 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 2.4
> > > Bangladesh 162 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 2.0
> > > Afghanistan 172 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01.8
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