<javediqbalkaleem@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> As I have written zillur feels no shame in lying. He writes:
> "The actual number of dead will never be known exactly. Estimates
> vary between a quarter million at a minimum to as many as 3
> million. And these numbers have absolutely nothing to do with Mujib
> who was langui****ng in solitary confinement in a West Pakistani
> prison during the genocide."
>
> When he is admitting that the dead will never be known exactly,
> would he mind explaining as to why he has gone always towards the
> higher number.
>
Just as soon as Ek Bal explains why he is always going for a number
lower than the lowest estimate! And, anyway, why does Ek Bal feel
absolved if it turns out that the Pakistan army murdered "only" 3 lakh
civilians? Would he have felt the same if "only" 3 lakh residents of
Karachi were murdered instead?
>
> Even without thinking whether genocide at such a large scale was
> physically possible.
>
Haven't we gone over this already? If death in the million were a
physical impossibility, would researchers of repute make estimates and
respectable journals publish figures running in the million?
Just to get a perspective of the magnitude of the genocide, let's look
at published data for Rwanda where the genocide was carried out by
ill-equipped goons, often armed with nothing more lethal than
primitive machetes. Here's an account of the death toll in that genocide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide
"Over the course of approximately 100 days, from April 6 through mid
July [in 1994], at least 500,000 people were killed.[1] Most estimates
are of a death toll nearer the 800,000 and 1,000,000 marks.[2]
"This genocide was primarily the action of two Hutu militia, the
Interahamwe (the militant wing of the MRND) and the Impuzamugambi (the
militant wing of the CDR)."
If poorly armed militias, acting without state sup****t, or moral
sup****t of powerful outsiders like Nixon/Kissinger/Mao, can murder a
million civilians in 100 days, why is Ek Bal's Jamaate Islami sources
spreading the canard that Pakistani soldiers, armed to the teeth with
modern weaponry, and with the full sup****t of the military government,
could not possibly have murdered 3 million unarmed civilians in East
Pakistan in 9 months?
>
> The other lie he keeps repeating is that the Jamaat was also
> cooperating with Army to kill Mukti Bahini goons. As a matter of
> fact Jamaat is a principled and organized party and all it did was
> saving the lives of hapless Biharis or West Pakistanis who were
> being persecuted, executed and randomly killed wherever they lived.
> The act of defending co-coreligionists and nationals of Pakistan
> upset AL so much that it included Jamaat in its enemies and created
> propaganda hype that Jamaat was killing them. The fact is the other
> way round. It was AL which was using its numerical superiority to
> kill the Jamaatis.
>
Ek Bal, you cannot get away with such a blatant lie. The khabor
readers are all educated enough and informed enough about the
killings. Ek Bal may not even be aware that December 14 is a day of
mourning (Martyred Intellectuals Day) in Bangladesh when the citizens
recall the horrific killing by Jamaate Islami. If Ek Bal is
interested, here's an editorial on the last Martyred Intellectual Day
on 14th December, 2007:
http://www.newagebd.com/2006/dec/14/edit.html#1
And here's a synopsis of the event:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_East_Pakistan_Intellectuals_massacre
"On December 14, 1971, only two days before surrendering to the Indian
military and the Mukhti Bahini forces, the Pakistani army with the
assistance of local collaborators systematically executed an estimated
991 teachers, 13 journalists, 49 physicians, 42 lawyers, and 16
writers, artists and engineers.[29]"
"Tiger" Niazi and Rao Farman Ali took to blaming each other for those
murders. But between them, they pretty much incriminated themselves
and the Jamaati goons.
According to Niazi's book, Jamaat-e-Islami, Nizam-i-Islam Party, and
several factions of Muslim League were known as rightist political
parties at the time, and the Army of Razakars was formed with men
recruited from those parties.
But, Jamaat-e-Islami men were dominating the Razakars annoying other
parties. Maj Saddik Salik, who was the public relations officer of the
then eastern command of Pakistan Army and worked closely with Niazi in
1971, in his own book titled 'Witness to Surrender', said in September
1971 a political delegation from erstwhile West Pakistan complained to
General Niazi that he had raised an army comprising men nominated by
Jamaat-e-Islami.
"The general [Niazi] called me to his office and said: From now on,
you will call the Razakars -- Al-Badr and Al Shams -- to give the
impression that they do not belong to one single party," Salik wrote.
It was inevitable that there would be a lot of finger pointing among
the Pakistani Generals after the surrender. This is how General Niazi
implicated General Rao Farman Ali in the wholesale massacre of Bengali
intellectuals on the eve of surrender:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rao_Farman_Ali
In the book 'The Betrayal of East Pakistan', General Niazi described
General Farman as an op****tunist, a conspirator and a swindler. Niazi
also said, implicating Farman's involvement in the killing of the
intellectuals, that Farman requested Niazi to send him back to
Pakistan, for, "Mukti Bahini would kill him for his alleged massacre
of the Bangalees and intellectuals on the night of 15-16 December. It
was a pathetic sight to see him pale and almost on the verge of break
down".
> Even it could not tolerate holding of first public meeting at
> Masjid Baitul Mukarram. Jamaat Amir came all the way from Lahore
> to address the public meeting.
Ek Bal, do you know that Jamaate Islami had been completely routed in
the 1970 elections not only in East pakistan but in West Pakistan as
well? A discredited party like the Jamaate Islami would have earned
the contempt of the people if it had tried to flex its muscle by
organizing a rally with the military's help even in West Pakistan, let
alone in the East.
> But AL goons opened fire and disrupted the really. Thereafter no
> opposition party could organize a rally and AL was the only
> political party which held rallies and spread false propaganda
> against Army and west Pakistan.
>
Was this alleged incident before 25th March? Then Ek Bal would surely
be able to cite foreign journalists for the claim because Dhaka was
like a fish bowl in those days - everything was taking place in full
view of the world. So, Ek Bal, do cite neutral journalists to sup****t
your claim.
If it is alleged to have happened between 25th March and 16th
December, then of course it is an absurd allegation. Remember what
happened on the night of 25th March. After that, till 16th of
December, the fire power in Dhaka was primarily the military's and of
the Jamaati goons.
>
> Yet another lie which zillur has been harping is this:
>
> "Anyway, these facts will mean little to the Jamaati types who
> triumphantly claim that "only" 3 lakh Bengalis were murdered! "
>
> He is trying to give the impression that only people of East
> Pakistan origin were killed. Whereas the killed included
> substantial number of Biharis and west Pakistanis who were killed
> in thousands.
>
Organized mass murder by a military under the state's payroll will
always attract the greatest attention and greatest opprobrium. And
understandably so.
Did no member of Saddam Hussein's army get killed in its genocidal
campaign against the Kurd civilians? But available literature will be
mostly on the Kurd victims.
Did no German get killed during WW II? But available literature is
mostly on the millions that the Germans killed.
>
> Pakistan security forces were busy in defending the country but AL
> goons and East Pakistan Rifle personnel were busy killing their
> family members back home.
>
Back home?! Ek Bal is getting carried away by Jamaati propaganda if he
truly believes that "AL goons and East Pakistan Rifle personnel" would
have had the wherewithal to fly to West Pakistan to kill family
members of "Pakistan security forces". This is just a Jamaati fairy tale.
And the military was certainly not defending the country - it was
defending the military's interest.' Didn't Tikka Khan openly tell his
commanders, "We want Benagl, not the Bengalis"?
>
> Awami League goons also massacred harmless traders and businessmen.
> Some AL sup****ters sucked blood from the veins of traders saying
> that it was their blood which they had sucked. The boys belonged to
> medical profession which shows their sensitivity and state of moral
> collapse.
>
Ek Bal, can you cite any neutral source for this fairy tale? I don't
think so. It was clearly part of the Jamaati propaganda to incite
further atrocities against the people in East Pakistan.
>
> In my *****smenet ten to fifteen thousand Pakistan security
> personnel were killed by Indian infiltrators and Indian armed
> forces with help of fifth columinsts. Five to ten thousand Indians
> soldiers were despatched to hell and rest of the casualities were
> of the renegades who attacked the armed forces of Pakistan.
>
Ek Bal is not very good at estimating. He doesn't like the estimates
by researchers and journalists on the toll in East Pakistan.
And he cannot accept that Mukti Bahini could have had any success
against Niazi's goons. Ek Bal would rather credit the military's
casualties to "Indian infiltrators and Indian armed forces".
>
> It was due to such incidents that Pakistani soldiers lost heart and
> realized that they were doing a thankless job.
>
Why would genocide be a thankful job? The military was indulging in
crimes against humanity. Ten million refugees had streamed into India.
3 million had been murdered. The military and the Jamaatis had no
business expecting to be thanked by the victims.
> When they defended Lahore, the whole city was behind them raising
> slogans for them and bringing food for them. So they defended BRB,
> a 60,70 meter wide canal which many divisions of Indian Army could
> not cross despite tanks and long range guns. Such encouragement was
> conspicous by absence in East Pakistan.
>
What an absurd complaint. Why on earth would East Pakistanis encourage
the genocidal army? Would the people of Lahore have encouraged the
military if it had resorted to murdering the residents of the city?
>
> Inspite of this setback, half division of Pak army defended the
> city of Jessore for three weeks which was under attack by 3
> divisions of Indian army. There are many such examples.
>
Ek Bal is clutching at self-congratulatory stories by a cowardly and
criminal army. Niazi's men were brave only as long as they were into
murdering/raping unarmed civilians. Once the Indian army entered the
fray, Niazi and his 100,000 valiant soldiers promptly sought refuge as
POWs of Hindu India instead of offering blood money and throwing
themselves to the mercy of Muslim Bengalis.
>
> Zill very cunningly talks about generals but conveniently forgets
> about the brave soldiers who lay down their lives for defense of
> their country. Getting extremely low salaries and hardly any perks,
> their sole motivation was their desire of martyrdom. He probably
> cannot think about them. Because in secular world you do not find
> such selfless soldiers.
>
Thoughtful Pakistanis were shocked not just by the behavior of the
Generals but even of the lower ranked officers.
Veteran Pakistani journalist Z.A. Suleri (father of writer Sarah
Suleri) has written how shocked he was in 1971 to find Pakistan army
officers nonchalantly joking about the on-going rapes in East Pakistan
as a service to the Bengalis to improve their genes! Much the same
story was confirmed in accounts of Dawn correspondent Anthony Mascarenhas.
>
> Muhammad Javed Iqbal
>
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