On Jul 5, 11:21 pm, good...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 29, 7:16 am, Zee <jonZ...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 29, 6:38 am, "Mark" <alln...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"Dario Western" <dariowest...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > Trent,
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> > > > Why did you post this message to a wrestling and Mormon newsgroup?
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> > > Why did YOU??
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> > because once evolving from a primate to a human being..;if that is
> > possible....the first discovery is that the most hate that can be
> > conjured up is a group of people or peer group that will not admit
> > their evil....the evil itself is not unaceptable to the m***** but the
> > denial of it is unacceptable...ref...pastor wright and obama...the
> > militant terrorist suicide bombers fighting for destruction of
> > everyone but their kind.....stalin...hitler...etc.....does anyone
> > think that hitler or stalin would ever repent....it is the
> > unrelentling attitude of the ****ist that is prevalent and their overt
> > desires to aggress and force their ****dness on the rest of
> > society....Dario is cut from the same cloth that Anna Nikki and i are
> > cut from ..knowing that our beliefs are not popular and know exactly
> > how the non ****d feel and why....but you primates until you evolve
> > and admit will never know.....jz
>
> The Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, and Hari-Krishna beliefs are not popular,
> but in a free world, they have a right to practice them. Most non
> Hari-Krishnas likely don't relish seeing the Hari Krishnas walking
> down the street and chanting and doing their dance, but it is the Hari-
> Krishna's Just right, and Just Freedom to do so. ****dness is not
> being "forced" on anyone by merely walking down the street. Unless
> your person or property is violated (or endangered), nothing is being
> forced on you, and you have a Just right to Freedom whether you
> "jon_zee," and other Americans, and other people throughout the world
> recognize it or not, you have a Just right to Freedom unless you are
> violating (or endangering) someone's persons or property including
> public property, or engaged in commerce, which given the exploitative
> nature of which may Justly be regulated, though not prohibited,
> through product bundling, quality controls, and advertising
> regulations, and possibly though not surely other ways I have not
> thought of.
>
> Thus, you surely have the Just right to commit non-dangerous, non-
> commercial acts in public. This is Freedom. The line may not be
> drawn more strictly than this, or must we violate the principle of
> Freedom entirely and may as well do away with it, leaving the future
> to a single prevailing ideology and religion, limiting all speeches
> and actions to those of the past, for certainly once something is
> outlawed it would be extinct and nearly impossible to gain a majority
> sup****t for since they would not even be able to try or see or
> practice it at all. Save the argument I am presenting here, and such
> is our current oppressed state.
>
> The only thing I think about "Anna" is that perhaps she is denigrating
> *** and promoting non***ual ****ity in an attempt to protect ****ism
> from the anti-*** bigots and persecutors in this world. I don't know
> if such a tactic is well founded, but she seems maybe too much a voice
> of the prejudice Nazi crowd to seriously be taking such a tactic.
>
> Leave your dress and conduct codes to private property owners who may
> eject any who violate them. No country may be called free which could
> require you to wear a Burka in public,
How about just covering up the genital areas? Is anyone
in the west seriously considering
but apparently that is a
> possibility requiring only 50% of the voters in the United States (or
> less than 50% as the minority of elected dictators can pass the law).
> Thus we see, Democracy is merely a means of political change, and
> Freedom from past governance, but that it is in no way an
> establishment or ensurer of Freedom. Freedom is a principle much more
> im****tant than Democracy, it is a principle to be both advanced in the
> minds of the people of this planet, and established in the foundations
> of any Just political system which governs them. The United States is
> one of the biggest human rights violators on the planet due to its
> disregard for Freedom in areas of drugs, arms, and ***. It has not
> been the bastion of Freedom it was supposedly conceived to be.
> American's Just rights and thus their prosperity, wealth, and
> livelihood are violated all over the country - as cities may
> apparently legally do thing such as ban the drinking of beer on the
> beach - taking the common citizen's wealth and prosperity, and taxing
> them to spend more money policing and jailing offenders. Such is the
> despotic state of the tyranny of our nation today. As seen with the
> drug war this vicious cycle increases true crime, undermines the
> justice system, and leads to more lawlessness and criminal
> lifestyles. The USA puts more people in prison per capita than any
> nation in the world besides China, and thinks to call itself free
> compared to such fallen Communist Empires and Theocracies which may
> respect neither free speech nor Freedom of religion, nor the rights of
> the accused - nor the right to acquire property, and may even force
> people to work like slaves - though I'm not sure how things work/
> worked in communist countries. And of those rights, none at all are
> protected by Democracy, they all are protected by the insufficient
> Constitution (specifically the Bill of Rights) which requires 2/3rd of
> both houses of Congress and 3/4th's of all state's legislatures to
> change, and neither has it been recognized to my knowledge to protect
> your right to property as taxes could be raised to 100% and the nation
> made Communist. Allying yourself with a lesser evil may make sense at
> times, but the truth is you wish to see both evils fall or be
> corrected - we can only hope for the nation's sake the latter comes to
> pass.
>
> So the nation's not free, and to the extent it is free, it is not free
> because of Democracy but because of the Bill of Rights. Democracy
> does not ensure Freedom, it is merely a means of political change.
> Democracy is merely a means of freeing ourselves from the dictators
> who ruled us in the past and electing new dictators without having to
> resort to war. The Bill of Rights ensures Freedom and is either not
> recognized or not extensive enough.
>
> There are 5 means of political change:
>
> 1. Free Speech - if it is allowed
> 2. Democracy - if your country has it
> 3. Civil Disobedience - if the penalties are not too harsh - sucks
> nonetheless as you can be penalized
> 4. Targeted Assassinations
> 5. War - nearly always civil war
>
> As you can see, Free Speech and Democracy are the most palatable.
> Free Speech and Democracy allow us to change the government without
> war by appealing to the rulers or replacing them. The other three
> methods cost lives but are sometimes necessary.
>
> And those who violate minority freedom are prejudice evil lying
> bigots, doing satanism and sin, jacking for nothing, taking people's
> unalienable freedoms away.
None of this has any relevance to scientology.
Why are you posting it on ARS?
Lawtears
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