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> [And Egypt is supposed to be a "moderate" Muslim country?!]
>
> <http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1
> 738>
>
> "No compulsion in religion" doesn't mean you can leave Islam...
WONDER WHAT HAS BROUGHT ON ALL THIS RELIGIOUS REPRESSION?
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/rel-christians.html
Nonetheless, it came into force on April 1, 1978, prohibiting the offering
of Ħ§material inducementĦ¨ for a person to change his religion. A material
inducement could be something as minor as the giving of a Bible
> Israel Shahak re****ts that the Zionists burned hundreds of New Testament
> books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History,
> Jewish Religion, p. 21).
ISRAEL SHAHAK RE****TS THAT THE ZIONISTS BURNED HUNDREDS OF NEW TESTAMENT
BOOKS IN OCCUPIED PALESTINE ON MARCH 23, 1980 (CF. JEWISH HISTORY, JEWISH
RELIGION, P. 21).
http://www.ety.com/HRP/jewishstudies/spittingoncross.htm
SPITTING ON THE CROSS
a statement by Professor Israel Shahak*
Dishonouring Christian religious symbols is an old religious duty in
Judaism. Spitting on the cross, an especially on the Crucifix, and
spitting
when a Jew p***** a church, have been obligatory from around AD 200 for
pious Jews.
Spitting on cross?
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/486934.html
> Some Teachings of the Talmud Erubin
> Yebamoth 63a . Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
>
> Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
> three years "and a day" old).
>
> Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have *** with a child as long as the child
> is less than nine years old.
>
> Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little
> girl it is nothing."
21b. Whosoever disobeys the
> rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot
> excrement in hell.
>
> Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a
> city where he is not known and do the evil there.
>
> Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human
> ("Only ye are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the
sub-head,
> "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are
> designated animals ("she-*****").
>
> Jews are Divine Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the
> Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.
>
> O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile
> ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.
>
> Jews Have Superior Legal Status Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an
Israelite
> gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a
> Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
>
> Jews May Steal from Non-Jews Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object
> lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned.
> (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
>
> Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to
> an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article
> to a Cuthean..."
>
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a
> Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals
> from a Gentile he may keep.
>
> Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God
> has "exposed their money to Israel."
>
> Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies
> ("subterfuges") to cir***vent a Gentile.
>
> Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children
> are animals.
>
> Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
> birth.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm
http://www.iahushua.com/JQ/talmud.html
http://www3.stormfront.org/jewish/talmud.html
I would point out that stormfront is the only critical of the Talmud.
Like the holocaust no non jew cared enough to really study the matter
till
we found our freedoms encroached and our lives threatened by the Talmud
driven jews.
http://stormfront.org/jewish/talmud.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/talmud_&_mishna.html
> The Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions
> Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written
> down in Jesus time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah
> (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees),
> because it nullified Biblical teachings.
>
> THE FAMOUS WARNING OF OUR LORD ABOUT THE TRADITION THAT VOIDS
> SCRIPTURE (CF. MARK 7:13), WHICH IS REGULARLY USED AGAINST
> CATHOLICISM BY PROTESTANTS, IS ACTUALLY A DIRECT REFERENCE TO
> THE TALMUD OR MORE PROPERLY, THE FORERUNNER OF THE FIRST PART
> OF IT, THE MISHNAH, WHICH EXISTED IN ORAL FORM DURING CHRIST*S
> LIFETIME, BEFORE BEING COMMITTED TO WRITING. ALL OF MARK CHAPTER 7,
> FROM VERSE ONE THROUGH THIRTEEN, REPRESENTS OUR LORD*S POINTED
> CONDEMNATION OF THE MISHNAH.
>
> Unfortunately, due to the abysmal ignorance of our day, the widespread
> Christian notion is that the Old Testament is the supreme book of
> Judaism.
> But this is not so. The Pharisees teach for doctrine the commandments
> of rabbis, not God; the Talmudic commentary on the Bible is their
> supreme law and not the Bible itself. That commentary does indeed,
> as Jesus said, void the laws of God, not uphold them. As a reader
> of Talmud (in the rabbinically authorized Soncino version) I know
> this to be true.
>
> There is a small Jewish sect which makes considerable effort to eschew
> Talmud and adhere to the Old Testament alone. These are the Karaites,
> a most hated and severely persecuted group within Judaism.
>
> To the Mishnah the rabbis later added the Gemara (rabbinical
> commentaries).
> Together these comprise the Talmud. There are two versions, the
> Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud. The Babylonian Talmud is
regarded
> as the authoritative version: "The authority of the Babylonian Talmud is
> also greater than that of the Jerusalem Talmud. In cases of doubt the
> former is decisive." (R.C. Musaph-Andriesse, From Torah to Kabbalah:
> A Basic Introduction to the Writings of Judaism, p. 40).
>
> This study is based on the Jewish-authorized, English translation of
> the Babylonian Talmud: the Soncino edition. Every selection we cite is
> do***ented directly from the text of the authoritative Soncino Talmud.
> We have published herein the authenticated sayings of the Jewish
> Talmud.
> Look them up for yourself. To verify the Talmud passages cited, refer
> to the Soncino edition Talmud, which may be found in large university
and
> seminary libraries. The Soncino Talmud may also be purchased from
> book dealers.
>
> Translations: The translators of the Talmud sometimes translate the
> Hebrew word goyim (Gentiles) under any number of terms such as
> heathen, Cuthean, Egyptian, idolater etc. But these are actually
> references to Gentiles (all non-Jews). See for example footnote 5
> of the Soncino edition Talmud: Cuthean (Samaritan) was here
> substituted for the original goy... Christians are sometimes referred
> to by the code word Min or Minim.
>
AND THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT LONDONS LORD MAYOR???
Everyone please go here =
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK2xKURltqE&search=israelis%20
Christian homes being knocked down???
The new homes were built by a group of limited income Palestinian
Christian
families who banded together as the Arab Orthodox Housing Project to build
a
new life. They obtained a 99-year lease from their Church, the Greek
Orthodox Church, 22 years ago and then began the agonizing process of
organizing and saving enough money to start construction.
"We were renters for 40 years," Dalal Awad, a mother of five told me. "We
saved for 22 years and built this home with our neighbors. It cost
$42,000.
We built it with our hearts, our own labor. Now the Israelis want to kill
our dream."
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/1607911.php
(Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National Review, March 16, 1992, p.
S-5).
Israeli soldiers can beat up a priest on the West Bank, then shoot up
his
church during Mass, and only the Catholic press takes note...If
Christians
had done such a thing to a synagogue, anywhere, it would have been
front-page news, everywhere. (Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National
Review, March 16, 1992, p. S-5).
http://www.al-bushra.org/ecu-inter/orthodox.htm
>
> Al Arabiya (Saudi TV Channel) and Al Ahram (Egyptian government daily
> newspaper); translated by Ibn Misr and edited by J. Campbel
>
> CAIRO, Egypt: An Egyptian administrative court rejected today the case
> of an ex-Muslim converted to Christianity that requested to change his
> name and his religion from Muslim to Christian on his national identity
> card.
>
> The verdict of the Egyptian court: A Muslim is not allowed to change
> his religion
>
> In explaining their verdict, the judges declared that they were guided
> by the heavenly court better wisdom, to respect the order in which the
> three religions were revealed, Judaism, Christianity and then Islam as
> the final religion. They interpreted this as heavenıs verdict, to allow
> the Jew and the Christian to convert to the (better and final) religion
> of Islam but not the other way around.
>
> The Judges went on and issued a very explicit warning, to Mohamed
> Hegazy, his wife and their lawyer, that going against the tide would
> provoke civil unrest and exacerbate emotions in the Egyptian society.
> [A coded veiled threat to Hegazy, his wife and Christians in general].
>
> The panel of judges went on to explain that, ³Freedom of religion
> doesnıt mean getting in and out of Islam to another religion, but only
> means that each person is free to practice his own religious rites, and
> not playing games with Islam or contradicting the Shaıria law.
>
> For Westerners to realize the im****tance of changing the religion and
> the Muslim name in the national ID card, which may seem to many a non
> issue according to western standards-
>
> 1- If you get caught going to a church while your religion on your id
> is Muslim that could get you arrested, questioned and tortured. Many
> ex-Muslims didnıt come out alive from the hands of the security
> apparatus. The latest victim was a 27 years old woman, Mrs. Sherreen,
> mother of 2 children from Alexandria , Egypt. She died at the police
> station on January 3, 2008 after five hours of torture for refusing to
> renounce her Christian faith and come back to Islam. As you read this,
> hundreds of ex-Muslims are in jails.
>
> 2- If your Christian religion is not specified on your ID, your
> children are automatically registered as Muslim in their birth
> certificate and they should follow mandatory Islamic ³religion²
> indoctrination cl***** at school.
>
> 3- Egyptian law forbids a Muslim to marry in a Church.
>
> 4- An ex-Muslim convert to Christianity that still has Muslim as a
> religion on his id can still marry a Christian girl in a civil
> marriage, but they would be faced with the children assigned to Islam
> and required to go through mandatory Islamic education. Technically it
> is allowed since by (Islamic segregationist) laws a Muslim man can
> marry a Christian or a Jewish girl (Muslims like to boast about this as
> proof of Islamıs tolerance towards Jews and Christians). But a
> converted ex-Muslim woman cannot marry a Christian man as long as her
> religion is not changed on her id card. There are thousands of cases
> like that. Their only option is to leave the country to have a normal
> life.
>
> 5- To apply for any job, even as a street sweeper or a shoe ****ne
> position you have to state your religion on the job application. For a
> Muslim convert to Christianity to write down that heıs a Muslim just to
> match whatıs on his id is equivalent to denying his faith. And if he
> tells the truth, he would be a target to the thugs looking to offer a
> sacrifice to their blood thirsty Allah.
>
> Some may ask ³whatıs the im****tance of changing a name?²
>
> Muslims and Christians are recognized by their name. So for someone to
> have Christian as a religion on his id with a Muslim name, that would
> expose him right away as an apostate and make him again a target to be
> killed by any one of Allahıs thugs.
>
> Where an ex-Muslim succeed in changing his id from Muslim to Christian,
> whether legally or most of the time illegally through bribing civil
> servants and other means short of legally, either way, the convert has
> to leave his or her job and move to a different city where no one knows
> him so he can go to church, practice his faith and get a job without
> risking being recognized or arrested.
>
> In the case of a Muslim couple with kids, and only one of the parents
> converts to Christianity, by law they should divorce and the one that
> stayed Muslim would take, custody of kids (who are forced to stay
> Muslim) and house. If itıs a Christian couple and one of the parents
> converts to Islam, then the kids become automatically Muslims. This is
> called in the Egyptian law, ³The kids follow the parent with the
> better, or superior religion.²
>
> Any Convert to Christianity has to go through all this upheaval,
> assuming heıs not killed first by Allahıs thugs or tortured and killed
> like an animal by the Wahabi infiltrated security apparatus.
>
> According to the Shaıria law, anyone can kill an apostate with no
> indemnity. What most Westerners ignore is that no Islamic court would
> condemn a Muslim to death for killing a kaffer (Christian, Jew, Hindu,
> Buddhist, or any non Muslim), since theyıre already considered ³the
> worst of creatures ³ according to Koran 98:6. In other words, theyıre
> not human beings equal to Muslims and their lives are not worth as
> much.
>
> Mohamed Hegazyıs father, Abdu Hegazy, issued a statement to Al Arabiya
> channel stating ³When Iıll meet my son, I will discuss with him the
> reasons and cir***stances that Oforcedı him to leave Islam, and will
> offer him the op****tunity to come back to Islam, but in case he
> refuses, I will kill him immediately.² He added ³I will not back up
> from shedding his blood in broad daylight. I will be proud for killing
> him. I will only forgive him if he comes back to his religion, admits
> his wrong doing, and exposes the people that forced him to convert to
> Christianity.² [This is another usual coded veiled threat to Christians
> in Egypt, by insinuating they are the ones that ³force² Muslims to
> convert.]
>
> ===
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