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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-feminists2mar02,1,598262.story
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> As they see her chances slipping, some feel old wounds: An older, more
> experienced woman is pushed aside to make way for a younger male
> colleague.
That's life. The male is the dominant ***.
> By Robin Abcarian, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
> March 2, 2008
> DALLAS -- Darlene Ewing is a Democratic activist, longtime feminist and
> very
> frustrated Hillary Rodham Clinton sup****ter.
>
> Like many who have dreamed of seeing a woman in the Oval Office, Ewing
> doesn't understand why women are drifting in ever-greater numbers away
> from
> Clinton toward her rival, Barack Obama. This trend, which has imperiled
> the
> candidacy of the woman once considered a shoo-in for her party's
> nomination,
> infuriates the frank-talking Texan
>
> "They're running to the rock star, to the momentum, to the excitement,"
> said
> Ewing, a family law attorney who chairs the Dallas County Democratic
> Party.
> "And I am worried that if Hillary doesn't get elected, I am never going
to
> see a woman president in my lifetime. I do think her chances are
slipping
> away, and it [ticks] me off."
boo hoo
>
> This sentiment is being expressed around the country -- in testy
> dinner-party conversations, around the water cooler, and in the public
> forum. As Clinton's shot at the nomination boils down to two contests
> Tuesday -- in the delegate-rich states of Texas and Ohio, where she is
> running neck and neck with Obama -- many women who sup****t the New York
> senator are angered and saddened by their sisters' desertion to the
other
> side.
No surprise here. Females are attracted to the strong and masculine..
>
> Old-school feminists have lined up against each other. Some chapters of
> the
> National Organization for Women are sup****ting Clinton; others are for
> Obama. There have been arguments about which candidate is more
pro-choice.
Why is it that the old post menopausal hags are always worried about
abortion? It's something that would never effect them lol
> For some women, the rise of Obama rips open a persistent wound: an
older,
> more experienced woman is pushed aside for a younger male colleague.
>
> One of the most impassioned cris de coeur came from feminist poet and
> novelist Robin Morgan, 67 in an essay that became something of a
> cyberspace
> sensation after she posted it last month on the Women's Media Center
> website
> (and it was forwarded by many people, including Chelsea Clinton).
>
> Morgan decried the casual acceptance of ***ism on the campaign trail
this
> season -- from the two young men who shouted "Iron my ****rt!" at Clinton
> to
> the Hillary-themed nutcrackers available in air****t gift shops.
>
> But Morgan reserved her greatest ire for women who decline to sup****t
> Clinton "while wringing their hands because Hillary isn't as likable as
> they've been warned they must be. . . . Grow the hell up. She is not
> running
> for Ms. Perfect-pure-queen-icon of the feminist movement. She's running
to
> be president of the United States."
That's right and as President she'll have to deal diplomatically with
leaders(99% men) around the world. A ball busting shrew simply won't do.
> Recent polls sup****t the suspicion of many women that theirs is a gender
> divided. Last week's Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll found Clinton's
> solid
> sup****t from women to be dwindling. Women are now evenly divided between
> the
> two Democratic candidates, though Clinton still enjoys a sizable
advantage
> among women 65 and older, who prefer her three-to-one over Obama.
These hags will soon be dead and let's hope we never repeat the folly of
the
last 40 years.
>
> Gloria Steinem, a Clinton sup****ter, weighed in with an essay in the New
> York Times in which she claimed that, in public and private spheres
alike,
> women have a tougher time than African American men.
This ***** is married to a wealthy S African man.
>
> "Gender," wrote Steinem, "is probably the most restricting force in
> American
> life, whether the question is who must be in the kitchen
Yeah, like females really spend time in the kitchen lol
or who could be in
> the White House. . . . Black men were given the vote a half-century
before
> women of any race were allowed to mark a ballot and generally have
> ascended
> to positions of power . . . before any women."
>
> Even "Saturday Night Live" got into the act when guest host Tina Fey
> expressed her outrage that feminists have deserted Clinton.
>
> "We have our first serious female presidential candidate in Hillary
> Clinton," said Fey. "And yet women have come so far as feminists that
they
> don't feel obligated to vote for a candidate just because she is a
woman.
> Women today feel perfectly free to make whatever choice Oprah tells them
> to."
Yeah, females are real smart haha
>
> Many women who sup****t Obama say they were torn, but are unapologetic
> about
> their choice. For many, the decision turns on one vote cast by Clinton
in
> 2002: for the bill authorizing President Bush to invade Iraq.
That's all nonsense. Females don't like a candidate because of how they
voted. Females vote for a candidate (man) by the way he looks and how tall
he is lol
>
> Earlier this year, a group calling itself "New York Feminists for Peace
> and
> Barack Obama," circulated an online petition that was a nuanced
> endorsement
> of the Illinois senator. It was so popular that the words "New York"
were
> dropped from the name, and the effort went national.
Both Obama and Hillary have done absolutely nothing and neither has any
experience to be President.
>
> "Choosing to sup****t Senator Obama was not an easy decision because
> electing
> a woman president would be a cause for celebration in itself and because
> we
> deplore the ***ist attacks against Senator Clinton that have circulated
in
> the media," read the petition. "However, we also recognize that the
> election
> of Barack Obama would be another historic achievement and that his
sup****t
> for gender equality has been unwavering."
That's just more female bull****. In their female minds they secretly know
that a female isn't up to the job of governing and protecting a country.
Besides, females are naturally envious of other females and can't stand to
see them have something they don't.
>
> Katha Pollitt, an author and columnist for the Nation, is one of the
> signers.
>
> "I think Hillary has been the target of a great big set of double
> standards,
> and in the end, I do know people who are sup****ting her because of the
> misogynistic attacks against her," Pollitt said.
>
> But she took issue with Steinem's comparison.
>
> "Even if it were true that white women were more oppressed than black
> men" -- as Steinem suggested -- "that still doesn't mean you should vote
> for
> Hillary Clinton," Pollitt said. "It might mean you should fight for
better
> enforcement of anti-***-discrimination rules, but it doesn't mean you
> should
> vote for the candidate most likely to wage a war. "
There has never been discrimination against females. However bad they
claim
their life was in the past, it was even worse for men.
>
> One of the first clashes between feminists broke out in December over
the
> issue of abortion rights.
This is a non issue. Even if the Supreme Court reversed Roe v Wade(never
happen because they won't revisit the case), the States could still have
their own laws. Many States had legal abortion before Roe v Wade.
However, today there are safe abortion pills and there is no way to
control
them so the whole question is moot.
>
> Just before Democrats were scheduled to debate in Des Moines, Ellen
> Malcolm
> of EMILY's List, a political action group that sup****ts pro-choice women
> for
> office, called a news conference to sup****t Clinton. She criticized
> Obama's
> lack of leader****p on the issue of reproductive rights. Within minutes,
> Obama staffers were handing out copies of a letter Malcolm had written
to
> Obama, singing his praises for appearing at one of her groups'
> fundraisers.
>
> "I think there is a big difference between going in and helping with a
> fundraiser and really taking on the president of the United States,"
> Malcolm
> responded, referring to Clinton's sup****t for making the morning-after
> pill
> available over the counter.
>
> Many in the pro-choice community insist that Obama's record on that
issue
> is
> excellent. One high-profile activist switched sides in disgust.
>
> "I stayed with Hillary Clinton through Iowa," said Lorna Brett Howard, a
> former president of the Chicago chapter of NOW, "but when it came to New
> Hamp****re, a friend forwarded me a piece of direct mail that attacked
> Barack
> Obama on choice and it enraged me."
>
> Malcolm said last week that she remains hopeful that Clinton can win,
but
> is
> frustrated that Obama has not been forced to produce evidence for how he
> will bring about change. "There is an absence of discussion about what
> Barack Obama has done," Malcolm said. "How many times have we seen a
woman
> with the best qualification for the job being pushed aside for the man
who
> was hired?"
Never, rather the opposite is true. Besides, Hillary has no experience
except living in the Whitehouse with Bubba. Her election as US Senator
from
NY was fixed. ANY democrat would have won that election, all she had to do
is become the nominee which Bubba did by intimidation, threats and pulling
strings.
>
> This complaint was echoed by Karen Wall, a 54-year-old Dallas paralegal
> who
> came to hear Bill Clinton speak Tuesday. She had heard National Public
> Radio
> political analyst Cokie Roberts recounting a conversation with Billie
Jean
> King that stayed with her.
>
> Roberts said Monday that King, the pioneering women's professional
tennis
> player,
What? She was a lesbian Tennis player, that's all. lol
was dismayed about Clinton's vulnerable candidacy. "I see my whole
> life going down the drain," Roberts recounted King saying. "A cute young
> guy
> comes in and sweeps away all the hard work that the older woman has
done."
What did King ever do? Oh yes, she beat the aging out of shape 55 year old
Bobby Riggs in a Tennis match in the 70's. She was in her 20's, in top
form
and condition and built like a man. btw, she had a hard time beating him
lol
>
> "I don't know if that's true," Wall said. "I personally feel you can be
a
> feminist and vote for him. But I am voting for her."
>
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