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Re: All pray it's Christmas

by kronecker@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mar 22, 2008 at 06:38 PM

On Mar 23, 10:17 am, "Peter Jason" <p...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Quite so.
>
> Religion is just another manifestation of the
> human condition, vis:
>
> 1/ The need for most people to 'belong' to
> some group and community.
>
> 2/ The need for most people 'to be told' i.e.
> to allay uncertainty; to have some fixed
> point and to know 'where we came from', 'what
> to do while we're here' and 'where we are
> going'.
>
> 3/ The need of some to control others.
> Religion is a social cohesive factor 'par
> excellence  where supervision is made all the
> easier via 'taboos' and watchful deities.
> Usually started by schizoid wackos who see
> 'bright lights' and hear 'voices'.
>
> "Duck" <duckka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
>
messagenews:9b5d461d-6310-4669-b6b7-283e3e05f7fb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mar 22, 4:27 pm, Duck
>
> <duckka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Firstly Easter never had a mention in the
> > Bible, the passage many
> > churches use actually refers to the
> > passover. You might recall that
> > delighful event when their God racially
> > murdered all the firstborn of
> > the Egyptians no matter whether they were
> > grown or innocent babies
> > after which to top it off their God then
> > commanded that they should
> > celebrate the event forever.
>
> > It's doubtful whether the event ever
> > happened anyway as there is no
> > evidence for it though there was a real
> > exodus from Egypt of religious
> > fanatics over a 1000 years before and that
> > is most likely the true
> > story. Pharoh Akhenaton created for himself
> > the first monothestic
> > religion by banning the wor****p of other
> > Gods, closed the other
> > temples and made a lot of enemies in the
> > process.
>
> > A rebellion ensued and he then fled with
> > his own converts, which
> > considering the number of coincidences with
> > the Bible and Egyptian
> > writings can only have ended up converting
> > the primitive peoples of
> > the middle east and I say primitive because
> > despite the Bible own
> > accounts of Israel (a name which possibly
> > orginates from Isis,
> > Egyptian goddess, Ra, Egyptian God and El,
> > Semitic God) there is no
> > evidence for a kingdom of Israel or their
> > King David and the same goes
> > for most of the other patriarchs.
>
> > Despite supposibly being a mighty kingdom
> > they had no significant
> > architecture, Phonecians for example had to
> > build Solomons temple for
> > them as they were unable to do it
> > themselves, the builder being Harim
> > Abiff, the patriarch of Freemasonry.
> > There's also little evidence of
> > art or even literature apart from religious
> > script which only repeated
> > stories from elsewhere anyway.
>
> > Solomon as one other example Sol, Sun God
> > in many ancient cultures
> > including even the Norse, om Sanskrit Sun
> > God and on, an Egyptian
> > diety and another name for Akhenaton's main
> > Temple city Heliopilos
> > dedicated to his Sun God Aton. Even the
> > first word in the Bible
> > Genesis, possibly genes of Isis and the
> > last word Amen another
> > Egyptian God. All the so-called pagan
> > cultures amalgamated their
> > heroes names to form brand new ones, yet
> > another clue to the origin of
> > the Hebrew religion.
>
> > Also many of their stories came from the
> > direction of Babylon one good
> > example being that of King Saragon as a
> > baby smuggled down a river of
> > rushes to avoid execution and brought up
> > into Royalty. Except Saragon
> > existed over half a millenium before Moses
> > was supposed to exist.
>
> > God in the Bible does command to keep
> > several days Holy yet are
> > totally ignored by people who profess to
> > wor****p him instead following
> > many other pagan festivals instead, a
> > perfect ruse for Satan you might
> > say. Few of the puritans that arrived in
> > America celebrated any of the
> > days we do now and all saints day
> > (halloween) was even banned.
>
> > So where did Easter originate that special
> > weekend were followers have
> > a morning service, kids hunt eggs and roll
> > them down a hill decorating
> > their homes with bunnies and baking hot
> > cross buns. These all come
> > from that evil place, according to the
> > Bible itself, Babylon.
>
> > 2000 years ealier they commemorated the
> > resurrection of the God Tammus
> > brought back from the dead by his
> > mother/wife Ishtar which the
> > Semitics pronouced easter. This day is
> > celebrated right across the
> > ancient world by many cultures with similar
> > stories but with various
> > name changes as the cults travelled, even
> > spreading to Germany and
> > their Goddess Eastre, same story similar
> > name.
>
> > Perhaps the most ironic thing about this
> > day is that Ishtar was known
> > by the planet Venus just as Lucifer still
> > is. That's right it could be
> > said that Christians all over the world are
> > innocently wor****pping
> > Lucifer.
>
> > Previously I had believed that Lucifer was
> > not the same diety as Satan
> > (from Christian writers) but after reading
> > some of Alice Bailey's
> > writings, who started the Lucis trust
> > (formerly Lucifer trust) which
> > today works alongside the UN she claims
> > that Lucifer and Satan are the
> > one and the same but like Gnostics today
> > and other branches of new age
> > religions they believe he was a lower
> > entity than God but was the true
> > creator of Earth and mankind and certainly
> > not evil. Maybe because as
> > we know that God is a jealous God that
> > might explain how Satan came to
> > be castigated by the Bible.
>
> > That is of course accepting that any of it
> > is true.
>
> > Lent, Osirus, Adonis (no doubt where Hebrew
> > Adonia comes from) Tammuz
> > and many others were honored by a fast of
> > 40 days even as far as
> > Mexico and today is still honored by pagans
> > in Koordistan. There is no
> > instruction in the Bible for lent, it's
> > origin is pagan.
>
> > Eggs, dyed eggs were hung in Egyptian
> > temples and used all over Europe
> > and Asia as a symbol of spring and new
> > life.
>
> > Rabbits, the hare was wor****pped in Egypt
> > as a symbol of fertility
> > obviously because of their birth rate and
> > later evolved to the rabbit
> > again all over Europe, notably Germany.
> > Some cultures viewed the
> > rabbit as a symbol of death which also fits
> > nicely as a symbol for the
> > life and death at Easter.
>
> > Hot cross buns, Jeremiah 7:18: "The
> > children gather wood, and the
> > fathers kindle the fire, and the women
> > knead their dough, to make
> > cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour
> > out drink offerings to other
> > gods, that they may provoke me to anger."
>
> > The Queen of heaven mentioned is Queen
> > Semiramus, the mother of all
> > harlots also associated with Ishtar,
> > Astarte (notice tart and it's
> > double meaning) and the biblical Ashtoreth
> > which also had the same
> > attributes as the Goddess Libertus
> > personified today by Freemasons as
> > the statue of Liberty overlooking the seven
> > seas just as is said in
> > Revelations.
>
> > "And the children of Israel did evil in the
> > sight of the Lord...And they
> > forsook the Lord, and served Baal and
> > Ashtaroth [Easter]" (Jdg. 2:11,
> > 13)
>
> > How is the date determined, this one has a
> > good excuse. It's
> > celebrated at the time of the full moon,
> > surely that alone would
> > reveal it's origins but no. You see early
> > people went on pilgrimages
> > at this time and to see they needed the
> > light of the moon to guide
> > them. Nice one, just maybe it's more to do
> > with all the above than an
> > astronomical lantern. The Phyrigian god
> > Attis and others were honored
> > at or just after the vernal equinox.
>
> > Easter morning service, some churches hold
> > these as early as 6 AM,
> > why? Consider that most established
> > churches face East, towards
> > Jerusalem they claim, yet many churches
> > East of Jerusalem still face
> > East, not forgetting that many churches are
> > built over pagan sites and
> > some even use the same alter. The Vatican
> > with it's Egyptian needle
> > within a circle (meaning ***) as it's
> > centerpiece is built over the
> > temple of Mithras and some conspiracists
> > claim it's still there and
> > used.
>
> > It's all about sun wor****p just as the
> > pagans did and the sun of
> > course rises in the East.
>
> > "at the door of the temple of the Lord,
> > between the ****ch and the
> > altar, were about five and twenty men, with
> > their backs toward the
> > temple of the Lord, and their faces toward
> > the east; and they
> > wor****pped the sun toward the east. Then He
> > said unto me, Have you
> > seen this, O son of man? Is it a light
> > thing...that they commit the
> > abominations which they commit here? For
> > they...have returned to provoke
> > Me to anger" Ezekiel 8,13
>
> > Deuteronomy 12:28-32 (NKJ): "Observe and
> > obey all these words which I
> > command you...When...you...dwell in their
> > land, take heed to yourself that
> > you are not ensnared to follow them...and
> > that you do not inquire after
> > their gods, saying, 'How did these nations
> > serve their gods? I also
> > will do likewise.' You shall not wor****p
> > the Lord your God in that
> > way; for every abomination to the Lord
> > which He hates they have done
> > to their gods...Whatever I command you, be
> > careful to observe it; you
> > shall not add to it nor take away from it."
>
> > 'Not add to it or take away from it'
>
> > I could add much much more but I can sum it
> > all up by saying that the
> > whole system of Judeo/Christian/Muslim
> > beliefs as we have today
> > whether Catholic, Protestant or other IS
> > the beast system as talked
> > about in one of it's own books, the Bible.
> > What a perfect deception
> > that Satan should twist a religion on it's
> > head that claims to be good
> > and wor****pful of God when in fact it's a
> > corruption of what this God
> > has commanded.
>
> > Christianity's Jesus Christ, a divine being
> > born to a virgin (as many
> > before him were) and it's religion and then
> > the man Jesus (though not
> > a Christ) of possibly the Essenes who loved
> > and laughed are two
> > different people. Making a hero into a
> > divine being was something most
> > of the pagan cults did including Rome. To
> > do the same to Jesus was
> > natural and the end result was control of
> > the Middle East and as the
> > Roman Empire spread
>
> ...
>
> read more =BB

about right...

K
 




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Re: All pray it's Christmas
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