On Apr 24, 12:04=A0pm, Javed Iqbal Kaleem <JavedIqbalKal...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 24, 12:52 am, "nkdatta2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> <nkdatta2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 23, 11:47 am, koolfireii...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Apr 23, 2:47 pm, Javed Iqbal Kaleem <JavedIqbalKal...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > wrote:
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> > > Then why go and lick American boots for aid,alms like beggars all
your=
> > > life,you think you are in any condition to dictate terms to
America,if=
> > > one tranche of aid is with held for 24 hours,you will collapse like
a
> > > pack of cards.- >
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> > Javed Iqbal Kaleem should get himself acquainted with the golden rule
> > - whoever has the gold gets to make the rules.
>
> > Pakistan is being offered alms by USA and in return USA is asking it
> > to become a peaceful, democratic nation. Beggars can't be choosers. As
> > the alms-giver, USA does have the right to dictate terms, especially
> > if it will advance the war against terrorism:
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>http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2008-02/2008-02-19-voa32.cfm?C...
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> > Voice Of America
> > 19 February 2008
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> > US Senator Proposes Massive Increase in Foreign Aid to Pakistan
> > By Meredith Buel
> > Islamabad
>
> > An influential member of the U.S. Congress, Senator Joseph Biden, is
> > proposing a massive increase in non-military financial aid to
> > Pakistan. =A0Senator Biden made the proposal during a news conference
in=
> > Islamabad and VOA correspondent Meredith Buel has details.
>
> > Senator Biden, who is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations
> > Committee, says he believes Pakistan has taken an im****tant step on
> > the road to democracy with this week's parliamentary elections.
>
> > Senator Biden called the election, which resulted in a major defeat
> > for parties sup****ting Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf, credible
> > and reflecting the will of the country's moderate majority.
>
> > Biden said the new government of Pakistan should enjoy what he called
> > "a democracy dividend."
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> > "I believe, I am speaking only for myself now, that we should be
> > tripling our non-military assistance," he said. =A0"We should sustain
> > that commitment for a 10-year period. =A0We should be focused on
helping=
> > you build schools and roads and health care centers and dealing with
> > the infrastructure of the entire country."
>
> > Currently the United States gives Pakistan $500 million in non-
> > military aid per year. =A0So under Senator Biden's proposal that
figure
> > would jump to $1.5 billion.
>
> > This would be in addition to the billions of dollars in American aid
> > given to Pakistan's army to fight al-Qaida and Taliban-linked
> > militants on the country's border with Afghanistan.
>
> > Before the election, Senator Biden said the United States should cut
> > military aid to Pakistan if the polls were rigged.
>
> > Senator Biden traveled to Pakistan to observe the election with two
> > other members of the Senate, John Kerry and Chuck Hagel.
>
> > The three met with President Musharraf and Senator Kerry described Mr.
> > Musharraf's reaction to the election results.
>
> > "He made it clear to us that he looks forward to working with the
> > other parties," he said. =A0"He expects the new prime minister and the
> > new government to govern. =A0He said he would respect the power of
that
> > prime minister in the new government."
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> > President Musharraf has been a key U.S. ally in the war on terror, but
> > Senator Biden suggested it is time to broaden American foreign
> > policy.
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> > "This is an op****tunity for us to move from a policy that has been
> > focused on a personality to one based upon an entire people and a move
> > to a genuine Pakistani policy," he added.
>
> > Senator Biden says it is time for Pakistani leaders to focus on the
> > future, restore constitutional order, insure a free media and an
> > independent judiciary.
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> > > > Javed Kaleem
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> > > > From: "Javed Kaleem" <javediqbalkal...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:10:53 +0500
> > > > Local: Wed, Apr 23 2008 1:10 pm
> > > > Subject: Unwanted and Unacceptable US intervention in Pakistani
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> > > > *The US =A0government has expressed its displeasure over release
of =
old
> > > > TNSM
> > > > leader, =A0Soofi Muhammad, after many years of =A0imprisonment.
Firs=
tly
> > > > it is
> > > > none =A0of =A0 America's =A0business =A0whom we =A0imprision and
who=
=A0we set
> > > > free.
> > > > Secondly =A0it =A0does not make =A0 any sense as to why =A0US
=A0hat=
es =A0 so
> > > > much =A0a
> > > > weak and =A0fragile =A0old man in his seventies. What great damage
w=
ill be
> > > > caused to USA if =A0a small part of NWFP is governed by sharia
law.
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> > > >http://www.dawn.com/2008/04/23/top6.htm
>
> > > > Swat was a small independent state which joined Pakistan at the
time=
> > > > of
> > > > partition. The state was governed by sharia law. It is a natural
law=
> > > > which
> > > > suits everyone, but especially the Pathans. =A0Justice is quick,
sim=
ple
> > > > and
> > > > final. The British system is in fact no justice at all. It causes
ve=
ry
> > > > long
> > > > proceedings, spread over years and even then there is no guarantee
> > > > that the
> > > > justice would be provided to the victim. Because of false
witnesses,=
> > > > clever
> > > > lawyers and obliging judges.
>
> > > > The Pashtuns live in small villages. If someone from their family
is=
> > > > killed
> > > > and they do not avenge his death they feel a great shame. Under
the
> > > > British
> > > > system, they see the killer and his relatives everywhere in the
> > > > village and
> > > > feel ashamed for not having avenged their dead. It goes on for
years=
..
> > > > Therefore the simple and straight forward justice ensured by
sharia
> > > > suits
> > > > them. The killer is destined to be killed and fast. =A0Otherwise,
> > > > instead of
> > > > one killer they kill many of his family. His family retaliates and
> > > > kills
> > > > many of the victim's family and this goes on until one of the
partie=
s
> > > > is
> > > > left with no male members.
>
> > > > Therefore when Soofi Muhammad demanded implementation of Shariat
law=
> > > > in
> > > > early ninetys, most residents of Swat sup****ted him. The
provincial
> > > > government could have passed =A0an administrative order or
legislate=
d to
> > > > make
> > > > Sharia the law of the former state and resolved the issue once for
> > > > all. If
> > > > it succeeded, it could havel become a role model for the whole
> > > > country.
> > > > After all Pakistan came into being to make Shariat its governing
law=
..
> > > > But
> > > > the puppet government of PPP resisted the movement compelling them
t=
o
> > > > raise
> > > > arms against the state authority. The rebellion continued. Sufi
> > > > Mohammad was
> > > > arrested and imprisioned, but the struggle continued. And when
Talib=
an
> > > > took
> > > > over Afghanistan, their demand for implementation of Shariat
became
> > > > even
> > > > more logical and strong.
>
> > > > Religion has become a history in Europe and USA. Most people have
> > > > turned
> > > > athiests and many churches have been sold out to become bingo
halls =
or
> > > > even
> > > > masajids. Therfore they want us to follow suit. It is as if a
blind
> > > > person
> > > > compelling others to become blind to create uniformity.
>
> > > > Islam declares those with no knowledge of Divine Guidance as the
> > > > blind.
> > > > These blind people want to guide others. As Jesus Christ has said:
> > > > Blind
> > > > leading the blind will cause them both falling into the ditch.
>
> > > > Javed Iqbal Kaleem*
>
> > quoted text -
>
> I write for my nation. The people of Islam wherever they live. Indian
> Hindus or the lackeys of colonialism have no business with my
> writings. But they are in the habit of poking their dirty nose in our
> internal affairs. Indian Prime Ministers =A0MM Singh, Bajpai, Narsimha
> Rao and their predecessors have been licking the toes of USA for
> aids and Grants. Pakistan has unlimited resources and efficient
> manpower. So our youth can earn =A0virtually unlimited amount from open
> world markets. Plus we are given a priority in the Oil rich middle
> east. Only this year =A0expatriate Pakistanis remitted over =A06 Billion
> US dollars. Our garment and textile ex****ts can earn over 10 Billion
> US $ and we can get Oil at special price or we can barter oil for our
> unlimited agriculture produce. Unlike India we are NOT required to
> beg. So let us be on our own and reject American peanuts right away
> and =A0bring peace and tranquility back to beautiful Swat valley and
> rest of the country.
>
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Drinking bootleg hooch and dreaming is stupid,especially if you are a
brain dead paki like you.All you can get is camel pee for free in
middle east.that you have been drinking is obvious.you can use it as a
chaser,before you begin hooching..You need american permission to
breadhe,never forget it.they will **** your arse blue black,if you
talk one word out of place.


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