On May 10, 1:34 am, koolfireii...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On May 9, 11:38 pm, nkdatta2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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> > On May 9, 11:16 am, Javed Iqbal Kaleem <JavedIqbalKal...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > wrote:
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> > > This is an old data.
>
> > And why is it old data? Because Jamaat-e-Islaami said so?
>
> > Transparency Internationa has been issuing an update of its report
> > every year. The data that I posted is for the year 2007. And now that
> > it is 2008, we'll have an update of the data in the fall of 2008.
>
> > > And it is never considered authentic because it
> > > is a CIA sponsored site.
>
> > And who told you that it is a CIA sponsored site? Jamaat-e-Islaami's
> > Aameer?
>
> > Transparency International's methodologies are quite transparent.
> > Javed Iqbal Kaleem can find out exactly how and when the data was
> > collected and how they were analyzed and who did the analysis. That's
> > about as transparent as it gets.
>
> > In fact, if it were indeed CIA sponsored, Pakistan's corruption would
> > have been white-washed because, whatever General Pervez Musharraf
> > might do on the sly, he has been doing his best to be on the right
> > side of CIA.
>
> > > Why you are shying away from the latest
> > > figures of corruption quoted by me. Can you dare refute those
figures?
> > > Can you prove them wrong.
>
> > I don't have to refute figures by something that calls itself
> > Alibaba!! And how exactly did this Alibaba manage to get data about
> > Swiss bank deposits? Is it in CIA's payroll?
>
> > Transparency International makes it very clear how the data is
> > obtained. In Pakistan, for example, there is Transparency
> > International Pakistan to do the data collection.
>
> > > If not, then admit that India is by far the
> > > most corrupt country in the world and paid agents like you are
> > > handmaid of the ruling classes in India. Shame on you! Can somebody
be
> > > so callous for ones own countrymen?
>
> > > Javed Iqbal Kaleem
>
> > Javed Iqbal Kaleem's desperation is all too apparent if he must quote
> > something like Alibaba over Transparency International!!
>
> > Transparency International provides transparency regarding source of
> > data, methodology of coming up with CPI and identities of scholars who
> > did that. No one needs to refute Kaleem's puerile temper tantrums.
>
> > Alibaba, my foot!
>
> alibaba is a chinese trade site,the figures quoted about black money
> is quoted by a girl named Depali Bakshi alias nick
> Anshu,god knows where she got the figures,there is no way of
> authentication the same,for all i know she must have dreamt it up.
>
> http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/288746/Black_Money_in_Swiss_bank.htm
>
> the profile of the author anshu is.
>
> Resources Member Profile
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> Anshu
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> > > > Transparency International is Berlin based and is the
internationally
> > > > acknowledged authority on the subject of corruption. Pakistan has
been
> > > > quite consistently recognized by it as among the most corrupt
natiions
> > > > on earth.
>
> > > > In fact, the actual corruption in Pakistan is way worse than
revealed
> > > > by Transparency because Pakistan's center of corruption is its
> > > > military which has powerful allies who have a vested interest to
hide
> > > > the full extent of Pakistan's exceedingly high level of
corruption.
>
> > > > As is to be expected, nations ruled under military boots usually
tend
> > > > to be more corrupt than those that have a tradition of rule by
> > > > democracy where peaceful transitions in governments is the norm
rather
> > > > than the exception.
>
> > > > In South Asia, Pakistan and Afghanistan are significantly more
corrupt
> > > > than, say, India & Sri Lanka. Here's Pakistan's standing in
corruption
> > > > according to Berlin based Transparency International in terms of
the
> > > > cpi (Corruption Perception Index):
>
> > >
>http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2007
>
> > > > TI 2007 Corruption Perceptions Index
>
> > > > Nation Rank CPI
> > > > Denmark 1 9.6
> > > > Japan 17 7.6
> > > > USA 20 7.2
> > > > Israel 30 6.4
> > > > India 72 3.5
> > > > China 72 3.5
> > > > Sri Lanka 94 3.2
> > > > Iran 131 2.5
> > > > Nepal 131 2.5
> > > > Pakistan 138 2.4
> > > > Bangladesh 162 2.0
> > > > Afghanistan 172 1.8
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Indians are so nervous that instead of digging out facts and coming
out with clear rebuttal they are objecting to the source. In India
itself a little known site TEHALKA.INTERNATIONAL had taken the ground
from under the feet of Indian military bureaucracy, by offering bribe
to a major general, who had accepted the bait and took Rs 40,000 as
bribe. The whole transaction was recorded and replayed. Alibaba is a
nickname used to save the well meaning people from the wrath of Indian
government.
I am declaring here that unless the Indian Government accepts its
guilt and begs for pardon and promises to return the amount back to
Indian people, I shall continue posting facts and figures about Indian
corruption. Can you believe the callousness of Indian officials.
People are suffering from hunger and destitution and they are
gathering money in Swiss Banks for their coming generations. But the
Jewish bankers are no fools. They will never like to refund the
colossal sums held until dollar
becomes as worthless as the paper on which it is printed.
Javed Iqbal Kaleem
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