Re: Lack Of Trees In Irish And British Countrysides

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 mothed out <mothed-out@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 10, 10:25 am, "Westprog" <westp...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > jl wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > >> Manufacturing, farming, and the
> > >> monies being made out of harvesting the peat bogs were main causes.
> > >> (Alas Bord Na Mona, so much for greed). Blaming the British,
> > >> (English) is merely being paranoid and specious. Britain had more
> > >> than enough forests of her own to build all the ****ps she wished!!
> > > As far as I'm aware Britain got most of it's marine supplies from
the
> > > Baltic countries - that trade certainly is mentioned quite
frequently
> > > in various history books.
> >
> > I wonder if anyone wrote a poem or song about Irish trees being cut
down.
> > That would be interesting.
> >
> 
> There's definitely a sort of 'horticultural aesthetic' prevailing in
> Ireland which doesn't seem to accomodate trees much.
> By and large, the norm for most people in the countryside is to have
> no trees at all in your garden or near your house.
> It's almost as if there's a desire for your house to be as clearly
> seen as possible when you look at the landscape. Like the house is
> used as a very visible statement, and you want people to get a clear,
> treeless view of it. Same for the garden, so often there's very few
> shrubs or trees, and it's all just grass.
> That's very different from England and many other countries, where
> people often either plant or preserve trees to create privacy and want
> trees in their immediate garden and nearby land anyway. In so many
> cases Ireland people seem to choose just to have nothing in their
> garden except grass, right from the garden wall to the house.
> Even my Irish neighbours in London have gone for the same thing,
> ripped everything out and put down grass from fence to fence, plus put
> in quite a lot of paving.
> They do have just a few plants right up against the fence, but I don't
> think a tree was ever likely to be included in the plans.
> They don't even have kids, so don't need the space for them to play
> football etc. They just like it that way. Fair enough of course, but
> I'm just making a note a different aesthetic way of looking at gardens
> which I find quite interesting. It's almost as if the mostly treeless
> landscape has found a way into people's idea of what is normal, or
> what they want to see from their window.

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