Re: Lack Of Trees In Irish And British Countrysides

On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:06:53 +0100, "Falcon" <falcon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Culchie Aspirant" <republican_remove_this_@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> The building of the Spanish Armada itself deforested Spain and Spain
>> is significantly larger than Ireland and Britain added together.
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>God almighty. Just when I thought things couldn't get sillier, we have a 
>debate in which a 'scientist' actually claims to explain deforestation by

>blaming hundreds of years of ecological damage on the building a couple
of 
>hundred ****ps.
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>We're all doomed, I tell you.

No, you're an ignorant ignorant man...fortunately that fact alone does
not mean that we're doomed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation

"The large-scale building of wooden sailing ****ps by European
(coastal) naval owners since the 15th century for exploration,
colonization, slave and other trade on the high seas and (often
related) naval warfare (the failed invasion of England by the Spanish
Armada in 1559 and the battle of Lepanto 1577 are early cases of huge
waste of prime timber; each of Nelson's Royal navy war ****ps at
Trafalgar had required 6000 mature oaks) and piracy meant that whole
 woody regions were over-harvested, as in Spain, where this
contributed to the paradoxical weakening of the domestic economy since
Columbus' discovery of America made the colonial activities
(plundering, mining, cattle, plantations, trade ...) predominant.

Tell me Falcon, since you're such a clever bastard, where do you think
the 162,000* Oaks that Nelson used to make his fleet came from?

* For the mathematically challenged i.e. Falcon, (27 x 6000 = 162,000)

Furthermore, to nail the point home to all my critics in SCI, on this
matter:

I note from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation

"Djouce Mountain, along with most of the island of Ireland, was
systematically clear-felled during the 17th and 18th centuries, in
order to obtain wood mainly for ****pbuilding.[1]"

"Initially, deforestation was practiced by local farmers in order to
clear land for crops, but later Ireland was systematically deforested
in order to obtain wood for ****pbuilding."

[1]
http://www.news.ucdavis.edu/special_re****ts/abroad04/ireland/ireland_7.lasso

Game, set, match.

Nik

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