Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians, Greeks, Albanians ... of 1432-1433!

Thenk you for the reference. I was in a process of translation the
paragraph 
in question from Bulgarian when your post appeared.

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"Nashton" <nana@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:fvmoqi$v2t$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Krater Makedonski wrote:
>> One of the "great" LIES of the sub-Saharans :-) (today's neo "Greeks") 
>> and the neo "Bulgar(ians)" is their LIE about the non existence of the 
>> Macedonians prior to 1945, propagating the big, fat LIE that Tito and
the 
>> Comintern invented the Macedonian nation, ignoring a multitude of 
>> evidence, such as, for example, the do***ents related to the Macedonian

>> uprising of 1680, better known as the Karposh rebellion, the Macedonian

>> uprising of 1878, known as Kresna rebellion, whose MACEDONIAN
leader****p 
>> drew up the FIRST MACEDONIAN CONSTITUTION. For more information on this

>> do***ent, amongst other websites, it has been archived at: 
>>
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_first_Constitution_of_Macedonia_-_Kresna_1878.
>
>
> Is this some kind of joke? An article with no references whatsoever, 
> written by who know who with an agenda that's extremely easy to discern.
> Is this what p***** as proof in FYROM? Figures....
>>
>>  The link below will display images from the book The Travels of 
>> Bertrandon de la Brocquiere during the years of 1432 and 1433. In there

>> you will find that the MACEDONIANS are identified separately from
Greeks, 
>> Bulgar(ian)s, Vlachs, Serbs, etc, etc., EXPOSING the LIE of bulgar and 
>> Greek propagandists that the Macedonian ethnos is an invented one,
after 
>> 1945. Now it's time for these propagandists ask themselves who are
these 
>> Macedonians, separate from the Greeks, Bulgar(ian)s, etc, etc... 
>> Unfortunately for the sub-Saharans and the neo "Bulgar(ian)s", good ol'

>> Bert :-) was not a prophet, thus he could not foresee the "Megalo Idea"

>> of the Athenian sub-Saharans  and "San Stefano Bulgaria" of the 20th C.

>> Else, he wouldn't have mentioned the Macedonians in his book. :-)
>>
http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/bertrandon-de-la-brocquiere-met-macedonians-in-1432-1433/#more-97
>>
>
> Peu après j’arrivai à Phéropoly,73 capitale de la Macédoine, et bâtie
par 
> le roi Philippe. Elle est sur la Marisce, dans une grande plaine et un 
> excellent pays, où l’on trouve toutes sortes de vivres et à bon compte.
Ce 
> fut jadis une ville considérable, et elle l’est encore. Elle renferme 
> trois montagnes, dont deux sont à une extrémité vers le midi, et l’autre

> au centre. Sur celle-ci étoit construit un grand château en forme de 
> croissant allongé; mais il a été détruit. On me montra l’emplacement du 
> palais du roi Philippe, qu’on a de même démoli, et dont les murs 
> subsistent encore.
>
> Philippopoli est peuplée en grande partie de Bulgares qui tiennent la
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
loi 
> Grégoise (qui suivent la religion Grecque).
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> For the non-French speakers, the author is saying that:
>
> Philippopoli is inhabited mostly by BULGARS that live by Greek law (that

> follows from Greek religion)....Whatever that means.
>
> At least he had this right, because this rich bourgeois really didn't
know 
> much about geography..
>
>
> http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/h/hakluyt/voyages/brocquiere/chapter1.html
>
> ...scroll all the way down to reference 73 and it's there.
>
> Glad to have been of assistance, Krater. And I sincerely do hope that
this 
> elucidates your true origins, Bulgar.
>
> I'm sure that knowing this at this point, you wish you had never
mentioned 
> de la Brocquière.  ;)