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Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians, Greeks, Albanians ... of 1432-1433!

by "Krater Makedonski" <jordan.apost@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 10:33 AM

"Nashton" <nana@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:fvmoqi$v2t$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Krater Makedonski wrote:
>> One of the "great" LIES of the sub-Saharans :-) (today's neo "Greeks") 
>> and the neo "Bulgar(ians)" is their LIE about the non existence of the 
>> Macedonians prior to 1945, propagating the big, fat LIE that Tito and
the 
>> Comintern invented the Macedonian nation, ignoring a multitude of 
>> evidence, such as, for example, the do***ents related to the Macedonian

>> uprising of 1680, better known as the Karposh rebellion, the Macedonian

>> uprising of 1878, known as Kresna rebellion, whose MACEDONIAN
leader****p 
>> drew up the FIRST MACEDONIAN CONSTITUTION. For more information on this

>> do***ent, amongst other websites, it has been archived at: 
>>
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_first_Constitution_of_Macedonia_-_Kresna_1878.
>
>
> Is this some kind of joke? An article with no references whatsoever, 
> written by who know who with an agenda that's extremely easy to discern.
> Is this what p***** as proof in FYROM? Figures....

Since the article seems to be a too great a shock for you, or you just 
simply can't read/comprehend, below is the information on the
reference(s):

A transcription of the Prescripts was kept in the private library of the 
late Bulgarian Patriarch, Kiril. Archive Department. Volume 2341 AE 50; L 
30-60, Sofia. The Patriarch, Kiril, himself brought the transcriptions to 
Sofia. The Prescripts have yet to be published in Bulgaria. They contain
211 
Articles.


Why would the "Bulgar(ian)s" be willing to publish such do***ents, when
they 
completely demolish their anti Macedonian propaganda. But the
"Bulgar(ian)s" 
are extremely good at "discovering evidence" (creating forgeries -1000's
of 
them, according to one Macedonian "Bulgar(ian)" employed in their archive 
dept) such as the stone tablet in 1996, the latest being the "Misirkov 
diary", "discovered" in 2006

>> The link below will display images from the book The Travels of 
>> Bertrandon de la Brocquiere during the years of 1432 and 1433. In there

>> you will find that the MACEDONIANS are identified separately from
Greeks, 
>> Bulgar(ian)s, Vlachs, Serbs, etc, etc., EXPOSING the LIE of bulgar and 
>> Greek propagandists that the Macedonian ethnos is an invented one,
after 
>> 1945. Now it's time for these propagandists ask themselves who are
these 
>> Macedonians, separate from the Greeks, Bulgar(ian)s, etc, etc... 
>> Unfortunately for the sub-Saharans and the neo "Bulgar(ian)s", good ol'

>> Bert :-) was not a prophet, thus he could not foresee the "Megalo Idea"

>> of the Athenian sub-Saharans  and "San Stefano Bulgaria" of the 20th C.

>> Else, he wouldn't have mentioned the Macedonians in his book. :-)
>>
http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/bertrandon-de-la-brocquiere-met-macedonians-in-1432-1433/#more-97
>>
>
> Peu après j’arrivai à Phéropoly,73 capitale de la Macédoine, et bâtie
par 
> le roi Philippe. Elle est sur la Marisce, dans une grande plaine et un 
> excellent pays, où l’on trouve toutes sortes de vivres et à bon compte.
Ce 
> fut jadis une ville considérable, et elle l’est encore. Elle renferme 
> trois montagnes, dont deux sont à une extrémité vers le midi, et l’autre

> au centre. Sur celle-ci étoit construit un grand château en forme de 
> croissant allongé; mais il a été détruit. On me montra l’emplacement du 
> palais du roi Philippe, qu’on a de même démoli, et dont les murs 
> subsistent encore.
>
> Philippopoli est peuplée en grande partie de Bulgares qui tiennent la
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
loi 
> Grégoise (qui suivent la religion Grecque).
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> For the non-French speakers, the author is saying that:
>
> Philippopoli is inhabited mostly by BULGARS that live by Greek law (that

> follows from Greek religion)....Whatever that means.
>
> At least he had this right, because this rich bourgeois really didn't
know 
> much about geography..
>
>
> http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/h/hakluyt/voyages/brocquiere/chapter1.html
>
> ...scroll all the way down to reference 73 and it's there.
>
> Glad to have been of assistance, Krater. And I sincerely do hope that
this 
> elucidates your true origins, Bulgar.
>
> I'm sure that knowing this at this point, you wish you had never
mentioned 
> de la Brocquière.  ;)

Nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, will change the FACT that good ol' Bert:-)
has 
met MACEDONIANS, Bulgar(ian)s, Greeks, etc, etc.... despite your wishful 
thinking to the contrary.
 




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Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians, Gre
"Krater Makedonski&q  2008-05-05 17:15:43 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
Nashton <nana@[EMAIL P  2008-05-05 07:50:56 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"S_N" <baba_  2008-05-05 14:16:36 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"Krater Makedonski&q  2008-05-06 10:33:29 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"S_N" <baba_  2008-05-06 08:29:12 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"Krater Makedonski&q  2008-05-06 16:04:09 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"S_N" <baba_  2008-05-06 09:45:47 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
Nashton <nana@[EMAIL P  2008-05-06 07:21:23 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"S_N" <baba_  2008-05-06 19:58:36 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"Krater Makedonski&q  2008-05-07 09:47:47 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"S_N" <baba_  2008-05-07 08:57:17 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
Nashton <nana@[EMAIL P  2008-05-06 07:17:49 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"Krater Makedonski&q  2008-05-07 12:00:06 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
Nashton <nana@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 07:30:14 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"S_N" <baba_  2008-05-05 14:08:54 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"Krater Makedonski&q  2008-05-07 14:59:08 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"S_N" <baba_  2008-05-07 08:46:04 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"Krater Makedonski&q  2008-05-08 11:52:23 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"S_N" <baba_  2008-05-08 09:47:35 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
ADR <aretzios@[EMAIL P  2008-05-06 22:44:56 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"Krater Makedonski&q  2008-05-08 10:40:09 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
"S_N" <baba_  2008-05-08 08:55:37 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
Nashton <nana@[EMAIL P  2008-05-08 07:34:59 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
Chorbalan <chorbalan@[  2008-05-07 16:22:51 
Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians,
ADR <aretzios@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 20:48:49 

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