Re: Bertrandon de la Brocquiere and the MACEDONIANS, Bulgarians, Greeks, Albanians ... of 1432-1433!

"Nashton" <nana@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:fvpb8f$2q0$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Krater Makedonski wrote:
>>
>> "Nashton" <nana@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:fvmoqi$v2t$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Krater Makedonski wrote:
>>>> One of the "great" LIES of the sub-Saharans :-) (today's neo
"Greeks")
>>>> and the neo "Bulgar(ians)" is their LIE about the non existence of
the
>>>> Macedonians prior to 1945, propagating the big, fat LIE that Tito and
>>>> the Comintern invented the Macedonian nation, ignoring a multitude of
>>>> evidence, such as, for example, the documents related to the
Macedonian
>>>> uprising of 1680, better known as the Karposh rebellion, the
Macedonian
>>>> uprising of 1878, known as Kresna rebellion, whose MACEDONIAN
>>>> leader****p drew up the FIRST MACEDONIAN CONSTITUTION. For more
>>>> information on this document, amongst other websites, it has been
>>>> archived at:
>>>>
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_first_Constitution_of_Macedonia_-_Kresna_1878.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this some kind of joke? An article with no references whatsoever,
>>> written by who know who with an agenda that's extremely easy to
discern.
>>> Is this what passes as proof in FYROM? Figures....
>>
>> Since the article seems to be a too great a shock for you, or you just
>> simply can't read/comprehend, below is the information on the
>> reference(s):
>>
>> A transcription of the Prescripts was kept in the private library of
the
>> late Bulgarian Patriarch, Kiril. Archive Department. Volume 2341 AE 50;
L
>> 30-60, Sofia. The Patriarch, Kiril, himself brought the transcriptions
to
>> Sofia. The Prescripts have yet to be published in Bulgaria. They
contain
>> 211 Articles.
>
> It isn't a shock, not by being a product of the FYROMian propaganda
> machine.

Ok, MORON, black is white, red is blue and the documents from the
bulgarian
archives "is a product of FYROMian propaganda machine" according to
incurable you. You asked for references, you have them and now you have
trouble in accepting them for what they are - evidence that goes
completely
against what you have learnt from your own propaganda. I don't expect
anyone
from the likes of you to accept evidence which is contrary to your own
propaganda, but I am sure others, more open minded and neutral will find
it
educational and valuable.

>> Why would the "Bulgar(ian)s" be willing to publish such documents, when
>> they completely demolish their anti Macedonian propaganda. But the
>> "Bulgar(ian)s" are extremely good at "discovering evidence" (creating
>> forgeries -1000's of them, according to one Macedonian "Bulgar(ian)"
>> employed in their archive dept) such as the stone tablet in 1996, the
>> latest being the "Misirkov diary", "discovered" in 2006
>>
>>>> The link below will display images from the book The Travels of
>>>> Bertrandon de la Brocquiere during the years of 1432 and 1433. In
there
>>>> you will find that the MACEDONIANS are identified separately from
>>>> Greeks, Bulgar(ian)s, Vlachs, Serbs, etc, etc., EXPOSING the LIE of
>>>> bulgar and Greek propagandists that the Macedonian ethnos is an
>>>> invented one, after 1945. Now it's time for these propagandists ask
>>>> themselves who are these Macedonians, separate from the Greeks,
>>>> Bulgar(ian)s, etc, etc... Unfortunately for the sub-Saharans and the
>>>> neo "Bulgar(ian)s", good ol' Bert :-) was not a prophet, thus he
could
>>>> not foresee the "Megalo Idea" of the Athenian sub-Saharans  and "San
>>>> Stefano Bulgaria" of the 20th C. Else, he wouldn't have mentioned the
>>>> Macedonians in his book. :-)
>>>>
http://makedonika.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/bertrandon-de-la-brocquiere-met-macedonians-in-1432-1433/#more-97
>>>>
>>>
>>> Peu après j’arrivai à Phéropoly,73 capitale de la Macédoine, et bâtie
>>> par le roi Philippe. Elle est sur la Marisce, dans une grande plaine
et
>>> un excellent pays, où l’on trouve toutes sortes de vivres et à bon
>>> compte. Ce fut jadis une ville considérable, et elle l’est encore.
Elle
>>> renferme trois montagnes, dont deux sont à une extrémité vers le midi,
>>> et l’autre au centre. Sur celle-ci étoit construit un grand château en
>>> forme de croissant allongé; mais il a été détruit. On me montra
l’emplacement
>>> du palais du roi Philippe, qu’on a de même démoli, et dont les murs
>>> subsistent encore.
>>>
>>> Philippopoli est peuplée en grande partie de Bulgares qui tiennent la
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> loi Grégoise (qui suivent la religion Grecque).
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>> For the non-French speakers, the author is saying that:
>>>
>>> Philippopoli is inhabited mostly by BULGARS that live by Greek law
(that
>>> follows from Greek religion)....Whatever that means.
>>>
>>> At least he had this right, because this rich bourgeois really didn't
>>> know much about geography..
>>>
>>>
>>>
http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/h/hakluyt/voyages/brocquiere/chapter1.html
>>>
>>> ...scroll all the way down to reference 73 and it's there.
>>>
>>> Glad to have been of assistance, Krater. And I sincerely do hope that
>>> this elucidates your true origins, Bulgar.
>>>
>>> I'm sure that knowing this at this point, you wish you had never
>>> mentioned de la Brocquière.  ;)
>>
>> Nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, will change the FACT that good ol' Bert:-)
>> has met MACEDONIANS, Bulgar(ian)s, Greeks, etc, etc.... despite your
>> wishful thinking to the contrary.
>
> Good ol' Bert mentions that:
>
> >> Philippopoli est peuplée en grande partie de Bulgares qui tiennent la
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> loi Grégoise (qui suivent la religion Grecque).
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> How can you look at yourself in the mirror knowing that your national
> identity is a lie, propagated by the help of snippets of text taken out
of
> context from a traveller's book?
> >>
>>