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by Nick Angelow <ddantgwyn@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 08:16 AM

On Fri, 09 May 2008 08:28:30 +0300, N Kostoff wrote:

> Dream Dragon wrote:

>> On Thu, 08 May 2008 22:24:16 +0300, N Kostoff wrote:

>>>Dream Dragon wrote:

>>>....

>>>>Мисълта ми беше друга - опасявах се
дали това участие в MI не е
>>>>създало погрешно усещане у Иван (и в
останалите) за начина, по който
>>>>трябва да се прави едно шоу-предаване.

>>>А какъв е той - истинският начин ?
 
>> Усещането, че за да докажеш таланта си,
за да станеш известен, трябва
>> да се държиш просташки, е погрешно
според мен.

> ... Или пък някой съзнателно култивира у
публиката просташки вкус ?

че има ли още съмнения в това?!

-- 
the lamers team honourable member
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Nick Angelow




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 Dream Dragon <blazhka@  2008-05-07 12:19:33 
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 Nick Angelow <ddantgwy  2008-05-11 09:48:37 
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 Nick Angelow <ddantgwy  2008-05-11 09:53:34 
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 Nick Angelow <ddantgwy  2008-05-11 10:02:11 
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 "S_N" <baba_  2008-05-11 12:03:21 
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 Nick Angelow <ddantgwy  2008-05-11 13:43:47 
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 Nick Angelow <ddantgwy  2008-05-11 17:10:53 
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 Dream Dragon <blazhka@  2008-05-23 20:02:46 

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