On Feb 12, 2:08=A0am, mogyothwar <ziza...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Feb 12, 9:40 am, Brian.Ana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Feb 12, 3:39 pm, "Zomi" <z...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > You can't have a roadmap to democracy that excludes the
[opposition's =
NLD].
> > > The first step was the national convention, which took 14 years, but
t=
hey're
> > > finished. The next is the constitutional drafting committee, which
the=
y have
> > > established. The people of Myanmar [Burma], the neighboring
countries =
and
> > > the world can't wait another 14 years for the next step.
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> > > -- Prof. =A0Dr. =A0Ibrahim Agboola Gambari of Nigeria,
Under-Secretary=
-General
> > > for Political Affairs, United Nations
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> > Hi Zomi,
>
> > You might receive more of a response to this posting in a
> > 'society.culture.myanmar' forum board (if that board exists on the
> > web).
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> > Kind Regards and am looking forward to hearing your future thoughts
> > (on Thai matters),
> > Brian Anasta
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> On Feb 12, 5:39 am, "Zomi" <z...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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> > Quotes of the day
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> > You can't have a roadmap to democracy that excludes the [opposition's
NL=
D].
> > The first step was the national convention, which took 14 years, but
the=
y're
> > finished. The next is the constitutional drafting committee, which
they =
have
> > established. The people of Myanmar [Burma], the neighboring countries
an=
d
> > the world can't wait another 14 years for the next step.
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> > -- Prof. =A0Dr. =A0Ibrahim Agboola Gambari of Nigeria,
Under-Secretary-G=
eneral
> > for Political Affairs, United Nations
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> >http://www.mizzima.com/MizzimaNews/News/2008/Feb/22-Feb-2008.html
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> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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> Zomi,
>
> With due respect to Mr Gambari, if that is what Gambari has said, then
> he should resign from his post immediately. That was what he said,
> before this SPDC's announcements. I have not heard him saying anything
> after this announcement of SPDC. regarding referendum and elections,
> yet..
>
> It's always been a pleasures to educate the ignorant like you.
>
> Mr. Gambari can not tell Myanmar or anyone what they can do or what
> they cannot do. But
> in his part I can understand, he is just an envoy. An envoy cannot
> speak for himself. He does not even represent himself. He is nothing
> more then a robot. If he had said it it can't be his own words.
>
> Myanmar saying is " Htan Thee Kyway Guite - Kyee Nin Guite " The fruit
> did not fall because of the raven, the fruit was ready to fall with or
> with out the raven. .
>
> Referendum and elections are long over due if they were under normal
> cir***stances and situations . Myanmar cir***stances and situations
> were not normal , were they? It was delay . by the opposition
> obstructed by the opposition That was the good reason.
So the delays are completely the fault of the opposition, and not the
junta?
> Not because of
> Gambari or any other pressures. If it was the pressures, it could and
> would have been done 14 years ago.
>
> If he had said it and if I say that Mr. Gambari does not know what he
> was saying about when he said you can't have a roadmap to democracy
> that excludes the [opposition's NLD], you would not like it that is
> true. He just close this eyes he does not want to see the truth. =A0If
> he sees the truth he can do nothing. =A0The fact is he can't go against
> Ma Su Kyi and NLD, you see. He can say anything he likes but not
> against Ma Su Kyi. His freedom is limited, very limited..
>
> Let the record be straight.Ganbari or not. =A0Nobody, repeat, nobody
> excluded opposition NLD =A0from anything. NLD made its own choice not to
> be included in anything. =A0As a matter of fact NLD was the one which
> wanted nobody to include, they wanted to do it on their own.and they
> were obstructing anyway they can to disrupt the National Convention.
>
> The first step was the national convention, which took 14 years, but
> they're finished.
>
> National Convention took that long for many reasons. Among them was
> NLD again. There were more representatives from all walks of life,
> more discussions, more debates until they came to an agreement .
>
> In Myanmar saying, " Laphat Koung Sar Jin Yin-Paloung Taung Tet Hney
> Ya Me ". Picking the best tea leave .
>
> In English as well they say, " slowly made cheddar cheese." one of the
> best cheese in the world which is Cheddar Cheese " are slowly made.
>
> You cannot rush anything, if you want the best..
>
> The representatives were picking out the best and suitable parts for
> Myanmar from many countries constitutions for the New Constitution for
> Myanmar. Nobody was putting pressures on the representatives, nobody
> was influencing the representatives =A0That I know of. As far as the
> military is concern, they have said they need 25 % of the seats in the
> Hlluttaws. Myanmar is not the only one there are countries which
> reserves these kind of seats.
>
> In the United States of America, no government cabinet minister ( they
> call them secretary) are elected directly by the people but selected
> or hand picked by the President .then approves by the senate.
>
> In Myanmar once upon a time Sawbwas of Shan States., =A0tribal chiefs of
> Chin and Kachin an others were ruled by their feudal lords and their
> descendents. When =A0democracy was introduced all over Burma they did
> not like it , some of them up to this day.
>
> "The next is the constitutional drafting committee, which they have
> established. The people of Myanmar [Burma], the neighbouring countries
> and the world can't wait another 14 years for the next step. "
>
> It wasn't long was it? The forming of the draft committee and the
> actual drafting or =A0 compiling of the agreed basis principals as the
> New Constitution.
>
> Now referendum is in May , and elections in 2010. ( which part we
> don't know. The most properly are in January around independence day
> or in in May after the Myanmar New Year .
>
> Whatever it is, it is better then nothing. Tomorrow is better than the
> day after. =A0There are many countries in the world, where there is no
> constitution at all, where there is no elections at all
>
> Does, Prof. =A0Dr. =A0Ibrahim Agboola Gambari of Nigeria,
Under-Secretary-=
> General
> =A0for Political Affairs, United Nations know what is happening in his
> own country?
> Why can't he make himself something useful for his own mother country
> Nigeria?
>
> He may be greatly missed by his own Nigerian people and his own
> country.
>
> I am sorry for him. What will he be doing now Myanmar's affairs are
> almost finish?
> Create another one for him to get busy again?
>
> Those who opposes SPDC are already starting to make busy
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