On Feb 12, 11:02=A0pm, burmansold...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Feb 12, 2:08=A0am, mogyothwar <ziza...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Feb 12, 9:40 am, Brian.Ana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On Feb 12, 3:39 pm, "Zomi" <z...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > You can't have a roadmap to democracy that excludes the
[oppositio=
n's NLD].
> > > > > The first step was the national convention, which took 14 years,
b=
ut they're
> > > > > finished. The next is the constitutional drafting committee,
which=
they have
> > > > > established. The people of Myanmar [Burma], the neighboring
countr=
ies and
> > > > > the world can't wait another 14 years for the next step.
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> > > > > -- Prof. =A0Dr. =A0Ibrahim Agboola Gambari of Nigeria,
Under-Secre=
tary-General
> > > > > for Political Affairs, United Nations
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> > > > Hi Zomi,
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> > > > You might receive more of a response to this posting in a
> > > > 'society.culture.myanmar' forum board (if that board exists on the
> > > > web).
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> > > > Kind Regards and am looking forward to hearing your future
thoughts
> > > > (on Thai matters),
> > > > Brian Anasta
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> > > On Feb 12, 5:39 am, "Zomi" <z...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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> > > > Quotes of the day
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> > > > You can't have a roadmap to democracy that excludes the
[opposition'=
s NLD].
> > > > The first step was the national convention, which took 14 years,
but=
they're
> > > > finished. The next is the constitutional drafting committee, which
t=
hey have
> > > > established. The people of Myanmar [Burma], the neighboring
countrie=
s and
> > > > the world can't wait another 14 years for the next step.
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> > > > -- Prof. =A0Dr. =A0Ibrahim Agboola Gambari of Nigeria,
Under-Secreta=
ry-General
> > > > for Political Affairs, United Nations
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> > > >http://www.mizzima.com/MizzimaNews/News/2008/Feb/22-Feb-2008.html
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> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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> > > Zomi,
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> > > With due respect to Mr Gambari, if that is what Gambari has said,
then=
> > > he should resign from his post immediately. That was what he said,
> > > before this SPDC's announcements. I have not heard him saying
anything=
> > > after this announcement of SPDC. regarding referendum and elections,
> > > yet..
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> > > It's always been a pleasures to educate the ignorant like you.
>
> > > Mr. Gambari can not tell Myanmar or anyone what they can do or what
> > > they cannot do. But
> > > in his part I can understand, he is just an envoy. An envoy cannot
> > > speak for himself. He does not even represent himself. He is nothing
> > > more then a robot. If he had said it it can't be his own words.
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> > > Myanmar saying is " Htan Thee Kyway Guite - Kyee Nin Guite " The
fruit=
> > > did not fall because of the raven, the fruit was ready to fall with
or=
> > > with out the raven. .
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> > > Referendum and elections are long over due if they were under normal
> > > cir***stances and situations . Myanmar cir***stances and situations
> > > were not normal , were they? It was delay . by the opposition
> > > obstructed by the opposition That was the good reason.
>
> > So the delays are completely the fault of the opposition, and not the
> > junta?
>
> > > Not because of
> > > Gambari or any other pressures. If it was the pressures, it could
and
> > > would have been done 14 years ago.
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> > > If he had said it and if I say that Mr. Gambari does not know what
he
> > > was saying about when he said you can't have a roadmap to democracy
> > > that excludes the [opposition's NLD], you would not like it that is
> > > true. He just close this eyes he does not want to see the truth.
=A0If=
> > > he sees the truth he can do nothing. =A0The fact is he can't go
agains=
t
> > > Ma Su Kyi and NLD, you see. He can say anything he likes but not
> > > against Ma Su Kyi. His freedom is limited, very limited..
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> > > Let the record be straight.Ganbari or not. =A0Nobody, repeat, nobody
> > > excluded opposition NLD =A0from anything. NLD made its own choice
not =
to
> > > be included in anything. =A0As a matter of fact NLD was the one
which
> > > wanted nobody to include, they wanted to do it on their own.and they
> > > were obstructing anyway they can to disrupt the National Convention.
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> > > The first step was the national convention, which took 14 years, but
> > > they're finished.
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> > > National Convention took that long for many reasons. Among them was
> > > NLD again. There were more representatives from all walks of life,
> > > more discussions, more debates until they came to an agreement .
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> > > In Myanmar saying, " Laphat Koung Sar Jin Yin-Paloung Taung Tet Hney
> > > Ya Me ". Picking the best tea leave .
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> > > In English as well they say, " slowly made cheddar cheese." one of
the=
> > > best cheese in the world which is Cheddar Cheese " are slowly made.
>
> > > You cannot rush anything, if you want the best..
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> > > The representatives were picking out the best and suitable parts for
> > > Myanmar from many countries constitutions for the New Constitution
for=
> > > Myanmar. Nobody was putting pressures on the representatives, nobody
> > > was influencing the representatives =A0That I know of. As far as the
> > > military is concern, they have said they need 25 % of the seats in
the=
> > > Hlluttaws. Myanmar is not the only one there are countries which
> > > reserves these kind of seats.
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> > > In the United States of America, no government cabinet minister (
they=
> > > call them secretary) are elected directly by the people but selected
> > > or hand picked by the President .then approves by the senate.
>
> > > In Myanmar once upon a time Sawbwas of Shan States., =A0tribal
chiefs =
of
> > > Chin and Kachin an others were ruled by their feudal lords and their
> > > descendents. When =A0democracy was introduced all over Burma they
did
> > > not like it , some of them up to this day.
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> > > "The next is the constitutional drafting committee, which they have
> > > established. The people of Myanmar [Burma], the neighbouring
countries=
> > > and the world can't wait another 14 years for the next step. "
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> > > It wasn't long was it? The forming of the draft committee and the
> > > actual drafting or =A0 compiling of the agreed basis principals as
the=
> > > New Constitution.
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> > > Now referendum is in May , and elections in 2010. ( which part we
> > > don't know. The most properly are in January around independence day
> > > or in in May after the Myanmar New Year .
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> > > Whatever it is, it is better then nothing. Tomorrow is better than
the=
> > > day after. =A0There are many countries in the world, where there is
no=
> > > constitution at all, where there is no elections at all
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> > > Does, Prof. =A0Dr. =A0Ibrahim Agboola Gambari of Nigeria,
Under-Secret=
ary-
> > > General
> > > =A0for Political Affairs, United Nations know what is happening in
his=
> > > own country?
> > > Why can't he make himself something useful for his own mother
country
> > > Nigeria?
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> > > He may be greatly missed by his own Nigerian people and his own
> > > country.
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> > > I am sorry for him. What will he be doing now Myanmar's affairs are
> > > almost finish?
> > > Create another one for him to get busy again?
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> > > Those who opposes SPDC are already starting to make busy
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> 14years or 40 years, it's rather a Peanut for a country history, don't
> you know?
Garbage. 26 years is a long time to be **** on for a human being.
> opposition fault?? Tell me something good or true done by opposition
> so far - nothing , right? then who's right?
The people elected them but the people with the guns didn't like that.
> learn my little boy !!!
Your insults make me doubt your credibility. I suspect you are one of
the people who cooperate with the junta so you can gain personally.
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