On May 11, 5:37=EF=BF=BDpm, "Derek" <i...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Labor
>
> I think it pretty clear to all of us that Nyan Win couldn't and wouldn't
> have said what "The Irrawaddy" has re****ted. Nyan Win is a lawyer, and
he
> would know perfectly well that all polling stations were required by law
t=
o
> stay open until 4.00 p.m. When "The Irrawaddy" re****ts that "most" (that
i=
s,
> a majority) of polling stations closed at 11.00 a.m. or five hours
before
> they were required by law, then that re****t is clearly nonsense. I doubt
> that a single one of the 25,837 polling stations closed before the time
du=
e,
> because if they did the NLD would pounce like tigers. There were also a
> number of foreign observers around, officially and unofficially.
>
> As regards the other stories in "The Irrawaddy" re****t, I regard most of
> them as being of very low credibility. I would accept that in cases
where
> poorly educated or elderly voters might have not known quite what to do,
> they might have been guided by "helpful" polling station officials. I
woul=
d
> also suspect that a number of nervous voters who would like to have
voted
> "No" could have been put off by police/security guards around the
polling
> stations. But I await a definitive judgement from the NLD on the general
> voting process before forming a final conclusion. At present, on a scale
o=
f
> 1 to 10, I give the SPDC only 1.5 for freedom and fairness in the
campaign=
> period, a very low mark indeed, which would have been even lower if the
NL=
D
> had been disbanded completely and had not been able to make its views
> partially known. But as far as voting on the day is concerned, I think
it
> compares quite favourably with the Thai Referendum on 19 August 2007
when
> the State likewise exerted tremendous pressures to get a "Yes" vote, but
o=
n
> the day acted in a way which was reasonably fair. So I find myself
giving
> the State in Burma/Myanmar provisionally 8.5 marks out of 10 for what
> happened yesterday. We shall however need to take another judgement when
t=
he
> results are eventually declared as to whether the results recorded at
the
> polling stations have in any way been rigged.
>
> Derek
>
> "labor" <la...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> news:4826f5b0$0$22166$5a62ac22@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> > May 10, Irrawaddy
> > Massive cheating re****ted from Referendum polling stations
>
> > Burma's constitutional referendum went ahead as planned on Saturday in
> > areas not affected by Cyclone Nargis, amid accusations of massive
cheati=
ng
> > at the polling stations and re****ts of a very low turnout.
>
> > Many voters in several Rangoon town****ps, Mandalay, Pegu, Sagaing and
> > Magwe divisions told The Irrawaddy that referendum officials had
handed
> > out ballot papers already filled in with a tick, indicating approval
of
> > the government's draft constitution.
>
> > They also complained that the referendum was not free and fair, saying
> > they cast their votes watched by officials, including members of the
> > government-backed mass organization Union Solidarity and Development
> > Association and militias such as Swan-Ar-****n. Officials of the
> > organizations sat close to the ballot boxes and advised people how to
> > vote.
>
> > Voter turn-out was re****ted to be very light, despite fevered attempts
b=
y
> > the regime to persuade people to participate. State TV broke into
> > programming throughout the day with a video showing a group of smiling
> > young women singing a ditty in sup****t of a "Yes" vote. "Let's go vote
> > .... with sincere thoughts for happy days," they sang.
>
> > About 27 million of Burma's 57 million population are entitled to
vote.
>
> > Nyan Win, spokesman of the opposition National League for Democracy
told=
> > The Irrawaddy that most polling stations closed at about 11 a.m.
Officia=
ls
> > then went to the homes of people who had not voted and made them fill
in=
> > registration forms indicating they had handed in ballots that had
alread=
y
> > been filled in with a tick.
>
> > Rangoon-based Burmese journalists said security at polling stations
was
> > very strict. No foreign news agency correspondents or independent
> > journalists were allowed near.
>
> > The cheating and intimidation observed on Saturday confirmed claims by
> > human rights activists and western governments that the referendum
would=
> > be a sham and neither free nor fair.
>
> > The regime had used both intimidation and vote-buying to assure itself
o=
f
> > a "Yes" vote and would predictably resort to vote-rigging if it lost,
> > observers said. Widespread rumors say the results have already been
fixe=
d
> > to deliver an 84.6 percent vote in favor of the charter, an AP re****t
> > said.
>
> > The government has also been widely criticized for pressing on with
the
> > referendum while the country is still reeling from the catastrophic
> > effects of Cyclone Nargis.
>
> > "Instead of putting all resources toward saving the lives of the
victims=
,
> > the military is concentrating on legalizing military rule in Burma
forev=
er
> > through a sham constitutional referendum," said a joint statement from
t=
he
> > All Burma Monks Alliance, the 88 Generation Students and the All Burma
> > Federation of Student Unions.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Lay Baw,
What other way do you know, what ways is your way? American
way, Ingalate way ?
Everybody can see that there is no sense in what you are
talking or what irrawaddy was talking about. You all have to come up
with better than that. Sense and common sense. You can fool some
people once, not all the people all the time.
Whatever your religion is, you have to believe in one thing,
just one that all sinners and wickeds will be destroyed by Gods. They
will be perished.
United States is a very strong and powerful nation on earth at
the moment, but US can do very little to protect its people against
Katrina and other tornadoes .
We can not interpret or tramslate these disasters in any other
way then the punishments of God. Nobody can fools God at anytime. God
punishes only the wicked and the sinners. That's what the Holy Bible
said. That is what the Buddhists prayed every day to be speared from.
Praying helps very little.
If you don't want to be perished in the next one, be a good
boy. You must try not be awicked, you must try not be a sinner.
Listen to the sense, talk sensibly and act sensibly, that will
save you, for your own good. Concentrate on the disaster or the
constitution and referendum. Pick the right one, I think you are
picking the wrong one. because you are stupid, and you are a fool.
I can only repeat what Jesus had said, " God , forgive them ,
for they know not what they do "
Mogyothwar.
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