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Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it's stuck with a flawed democracy...unable to change .

by Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSPAMh3@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 19, 2008 at 02:18 PM

On Mon, 19 May 2008 07:26:56 +0800, baldeagle wrote
(in article 
<3287fa4c-7554-492d-9177-44b2e3bb2ba5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):

> On May 19, 12:01 am, Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSPA...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 May 2008 17:12:46 +0800, baldeagle wrote
>> (in article
>> <7cbdbaf0-bcd6-4647-ac52-adbbf06f2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Unfortunately, the USA can do nothing...absolutely nothing. The USA
has an
>>> overwhelming force...the special interests groups and the all powerful

>>> media
>>> (like drug) that would resist any attempt towards a better system.
>> 
>> From 1776 to today, the US system has continued to evolve. It will
continue
>> to evolve in the future because the essence of democracy is change and
>> evolution.
> 
> 
> The USA in 1776 to 1950 was NOT a democracy...yes NOT
> a democracy.

Well, no. It was a democracy but it was imperfect. Please notice that I
did 
not claim it was a perfect democracy in 1776. Quite the contrary. It
lacked 
many of the qualities necessary to be called a democracy today.

For example, in the 1700s thru the middle 1800s, you had to own land to be

able to vote. 

> The USA had slavery, discrimination against the blacks,
> the white uses "hangman noose"...segregation...
> Even now, human trafficking is happening in the USA.
> Surely you are not calling  such social ugliness is as
> democracy.

Yes, I am. I am calling the pre-Civil War USA a democracy.

> Since the late 70s, the US has displayed its inability
> to change....the inability to remove social flaws..
> The US is a fossilized society....too proud to accept
> the fact that it has flaws  and that it needs to make changes
> to adapt to at changing  world....to become a better society.

Weird. An African American is about to be elected President but you claim
the 
USA is fossilized.


-- 
Love, Jim
(I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive 
crossposts.)


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Re: Putting shit in Bill Moore's big fat mouth.
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 12:53:37 
Re: Bill Moore is Immature and intellectually dishonest ...eatin
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-21 12:00:53 
People die, LT Lee tries to explain it away with "logic", s.c.c.
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 13:21:30 
Re: People die, LT Lee tries to explain it away with "logic", s.
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Re: People die, LT Lee tries to explain it away with "logic", s.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:31:32 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-20 18:25:55 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-21 12:00:55 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-21 12:00:56 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-21 12:00:58 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-20 18:26:39 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-20 23:01:47 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-20 23:04:57 
Using Democratic Principles to Oppose Democracy.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-21 20:18:18 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-20 23:06:25 
Re: Using Democratic Principles to Oppose Democracy.
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-21 17:35:03 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-21 17:39:22 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 13:17:51 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-22 08:20:22 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
"J.Venning" <  2008-05-22 17:24:27 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
"demmahom" <  2008-05-23 10:49:17 
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"demmahom" <  2008-05-23 10:47:54 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-23 12:10:40 
Re: Who want democracy ?...The USA is a fossilized society...it'
"demmahom" <  2008-05-24 10:36:31 
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Zo Khup <ginpyankhup@[  2008-05-22 08:44:26 
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