I am MI5 and I am still watching YOU!
We have a list of secret agents, we are all watching you
BitterAnklo = Japan agent in Osaka
lt Lee - CCP PLA type from China and North Carolina
BaldEagle - Hawaii office to Singa****e
Supertech= Korea to Texas field office
Abian Chen= Taiwan to NY
L. Alpert = Jewish plant/ in CT.
Susan Cohen our head UK MI5 office head.
YES we are all watching YOU!
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> wrote in message news:vy0711260910355532@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Four Years. of "MI5 Persecution" Posts on Internet Newsgroups
>
> For approximately the first three years. of the MI5 persecution, from
June
> 1990 until late 1992, I kept as quiet as possible, in the. hope that by
> not
> reacting,. MI5s interest in me would decrease and they would simply go
> away
> of their. own accord. This is the sort of behaviour some people employ
> against bullies; if. the bullies arent getting a reaction, then they
might
> simply go away and. victimize someone else.
>
> Unfortunately, this tactic didnt work. The quieter I became,. the more
> shrill and hysterical the. noise from the Security Service operatives.
For
> about two years I didnt watch TV news at all. Yet. this only heightened
> their obsessed fixation; they continued to. follow me wherever I went,
> they
> continued to induce harassment at work by. managers and fellow workers,
> and
> they continued to encourage me to. commit suicide. They seemed to regard
> my
> refusal to react as a crime which they would have to "put right". by
ever
> more extreme forms of. abuse.
>
> Finally,. in 1995, I changed tactics radically. Since late 1994 I had
had
> accounts with internet providers in Ontario, Canada.. I discovered the
> cornucopia of internet newsgroups, on every topic. from consumer
> electronics, to politics and legal topics,. and I discovered online
> services such as. Compuserve and AOL. In May 1995, I made the first
> posting
> to the. conspiracy newsgroup, on the subject of "BBCs Hidden Shame".
>
> BBC's. Hidden Shame
>
> The internet newsgroup discussion, which has now reached. its fourth
> anniversary, started with an. article in alt.conspiracy, which I
reproduce
> here.
>
> Date: Thu May . 4 18:27:24 1995
> Newsgroups:. alt.conspiracy
> Subject: BBC's. Hidden Shame
>
> Remember. the two-way televisions in George Orwell's 1984? The ones
which
> watched you
> back? Which you could never get rid of, only the sound could be turned.
> down?
>
> Well the country which brought Orwell into the world has made. his
> nightmare follow into
> the world after him. Since 1990 the British have been waging war.
against
> one of their
> own. citizens using surveillance to invade privacy and a campaign of
abuse
> in the
> transmitted media. in their efforts to humiliate their "victim".
>
> And the most remarkable thing about it is that what they do is not even.
> illegal - the
> UK has no laws to protect the privacy of its citizens, nor does it
> proscribe. harassment
> or abuse except in the. case of racial abuse.
>
> A lot of people in England know this to. be going on, yet so far they
have
> maintained
> perfect "omerta"; not a sound, not a squeak has escaped into the English
> press,. and for
> all the covert harassment absolutely nothing has come out into the
public.
> domain.
>
> Have the British gone mad?. I think we should be told
>
> At this point, I did not name MI5 as my persecutors. I. was still unsure
> that they were the ones responsible for. the "psychological terrorism".
In
> followup. posts however I did name them; and the persecutors have never
> denied the claim; so I. think my guess is valid. (The Security Service
> Tribunal in 1997 have said "no determination in your favour. was made",
> but
> it is a. well established fact that MI5 lies routinely to the Tribunal
> which has never found in favour of a plaintiff, so no conclusions can.
be
> drawn. from this.)
>
> This first post was made to alt.conspiracy, but further posts. were made
> to
> the. UK-local newsgroups, in particular uk.misc but also uk.legal and
> uk.politics (which is now called uk.politics.misc). Some time. ago I
tried
> to take the battle to the Compuserve forums,. UKPOLITICS (which is now
> called UKCURRENT - current affairs), but my articles. were censored by
the
> forum operators. Such censor****p is impossible on. the internet
> newsgroups.
>
> Police. Refuse to Act
>
> I have. complained several times to the Metropolitan Police, who have
each
> time refused to. help.
>
> From:. Green <Green@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Newsgroups:.
uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british
> Subject: Re: MI5. Persecution: Why Aren't the British Police Doing Their
> Job?
> Reply-To:. Green@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date:. Sun Apr 7 21:13:30 1996
>
> In article. <DpIE0r.736.0.bloor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> . bu765@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Mike Corley" writes:
>
>>Last Easter (1995) I went into the local police station in London. and
>>spoke to
>>an officer about the harassment against me. But I. couldn't provide
>>tangible
>>evidence; what people said, in many cases years ago, is beyond proof,.
and
>>without. something to sup****t my statements I cannot expect a police
>>officer to
>>take. the complaint seriously.
>
> This in itself. dos not suggest that the police have it in for you. The
> old bill
> operates on extremely tight. spending limits forced on them by that
> pillock Michael
> Howard,. and without evidence, they often have higher priorities than
> chasing something
> that cannot. go to court.
>
> I doubt that the police are. actually being leant on, but they probably
> realise that if
> they looked into this, they would be leant on hard. The. met always
stays
> away from
> anything. that looks like it has Defence, Security or secret service
> interest already,
> because they realise that they are. below these government agencies in
the
> general
> pecking. order.
>
> If I walked into my local nick and complained that MI5 were. snooping on
> me, they would
> show me the door without even looking. at my evidence, because that
bored
> desk seargant
> with only five years to go before he retires doesn't want to start.
> ****ing about with
> somebody who has incurred the wrath of Stella Rimington. . He would
rather
> deal with the
> lost. dogs and driving licence producers, eat his cheese and pickle
> sandwiches and piss
> off home at the end of his ****ft than. have some high ranking spook
having
> a go at his
> boss and getting him. a bollocking.
>
> In short, you. have earned much sympathy but little surprise. Just
> remember that saying
> about the. enemy of your enemies.
>
> Most recently, I wrote in. March 1999 to Charing Cross Police Station
> CID. They did not acknowledge or. reply to my letter. When I phoned them
> up, the detective Id written to treated me to a sadly not unusual.
display
> of police. bigotry, with an uneducated rant about "your paranoid
rubbish".
>
> It. would be nice to think that such uneducated bigotry is something
> other
> than wholly. typical of police behaviour, but unfortunately that is an
> illusion that is. rapidly dispelled.
>
> Uncorruptible Jon Snow of Channel Four. News
>
> From previous articles the reader will know what I. think Jon Snow has
> recently been watching me while he reads Channel Four News in. the
> evening. Recently I digitized. a few moments of one such broadcast,
where
> his face twists into a smile, without there. being anything in the news
> broadcast to cause merriment.. Here is a usenet post from some time ago
on
> MI5s "bought and paid for" tools. in the so-called "free" press.
>
>
> Peter Harding. (harding@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) wrote:
> : I was at speakers' corner on Sunday.. There was one chap who was
> bellowing
> :. about something or other, I don't know what, but one thing he said to
> : someone. caught my ear:
>
> : "BBC, MI5,. same thing."
>
> Can't disagree with that. sentiment.
>
> Wasn't it do***ented that MI5 sometimes "bought" journalists. and
> broadcasters?
> I remember reading. a re****t by some jouralist who had been offered an
> extra
> tax-free income by MI5 to become. their covert mouthpiece, and had
> refused.
>
.............................................................................
>> :. >mouthpiece, and had refused.
>>. :
>> :. It was Jon Snow of Channel 4.
>>
>> Was it re****ted in any of. the papers?
>
> It has been re****ted several times. The most. recent was in Private Eye,
> a. few months back. As I recall they also wanted information from him;
> journalists. would be a natural choice for members of the Security
Service
> and. the Secret Intelligence Service for information sources.
>
>> It might. be interesting to see what he had to say regarding their
>>. attempt to recruit him.
>
> He was. most concerned that many others would have accepted such an
> offer. However, we can probably make an. educated guess as to some of
> those who accepted: Nigel West (Rupert. Allason, MP) and Chapman Pincher
> would come near to the. top of the list.
>
> --
> \/. David Boothroyd. Socialist and election analyst. Omne ignotum pro
> magnifico.
> British Elections and. Politics at
> http://www.qmw.ac.uk/~laws/election/home.html
> I wish I was in North. Dakota. Next General Election must be before 22nd
> May '97
> The House of Commons now : C 324, Lab. 272, L Dem 25, UU 9, PC 4, SDLP
4,
> SNP 4,
> UDUP 3, Ind 1, Ind UU 1, Spkrs. 4. Government majority = 1. Telephone
Tate
> 6125.
>
> Corrupt Security. Service agents steal millions from taxpayers
>
> Money is of course a factor in the grand. equation which is the MI5
> persecution.. It costs money for the Security Service to "buy" people in
> the media. etc. But that is only a small part of their expenditure of
> taxpayers. resources. Most of the expenditure is directly on the
salaries
> if the agents involved; and in this post. I put forward the theory that
> MI5
> are. trying to draw out their involvement for as long as possible, very
> cynically, to maximise their. income and line their own pockets.
>
> At each stage they have tried to pretend that I am something. out of the
> ordinary.
> Either I was very stupid ("he's an idiot") or very clever ("he's. like a
> genius").
> Either I was a threat to Western civilization (Levin once referred to me
> as the. next
> Hitler) or I was completely defenceless. ("a soft toy").
>
> Now, it should be obvious to any person with common-sense that. I am not
> out of the
> ordinary in any way. I have an IQ which is average for the Web, I am.
> racially white
> European, and there are plenty of other people with. schizophrenia or
> epilepsy out there
> who haven't. been targeted for MI5 attention, so why me?
>
> I. think the answer is that the MI5 agents who harass me have cynically
> exploited the
> situation by painting me. as extraordinary in order to assure themselves
> of well-paid
> employment funded by the ordinary. British taxpayer. To put it bluntly,
> they are
> stealing millions of pounds from the taxpayer to feed their. own
pockets.
>
> This assertion is sup****ted by the observation that it's the same.
agents
> who are doing
> the harassment. Six months ago in a local hospital I. was harassed by
> someone whose face
> I. had seen (he had stared straight at me aggressively, at the time I
just
> thought it
> was some nutter but it turns out he was one. of "them") aboard a KLM
> flight a couple of
> years ago. It's presumably been the same people most of the. time. I've
> seen the way
> contractors act when they don't want their positions terminated.. Would
> these agents
> really want. to lose their well-paid employment harassing me? Presumably
> they are
> promising their. bosses a "breakthrough" (ie my demise) real-soon-now
and
> have been for
> the last seven. years, while all the while these MI5 agents skim
millions
> off the. taxpayer.
>
> I wouldn't mind a job like. that. Perhaps if I persecute myself a little
> bit, like
> standing in. front of a mirror and shouting mindless obscenities, do you
> reckon I'd get
> a slice of the caky. Service Tribunal. This year Nick Brooks, current
> Tribunal Secretary, confirmed to. me that he could not think of a single
> case where the Tribunal had found in. favour of a complainant. Here is
my
> usenet. post from two years ago.
>
> Subject: MI5: "It. wasn't us"
> Newsgroups:. uk.misc,uk.legal
> Organization:. Toronto Free-Net
>
> "The Security Service Tribunal have now investigated your. complaint and
> have
> asked me to inform you that no determination in your favour. has been
made
> on
> your. complaint."
>
> Signed. ER Wilson, Tribunal Secretary
>
> Well that's a relief then. All that spamming. for nothing eh. Gaw
blimey,
> if
> they say they're. not doing it then it can't be them, can it?
>
> In a recent letter to Mr Brooks I expressed the opinion that the.
Tribunal
> were unable to. fulfil their responsibilities in the face of MI5
> falsehoods. Nevertheless, I do intend to make another. complaint to the
> Tribunal in the near future, despite the Tribunal appearing to. be a
> toothless. watchdog.
>
> Discrimination. against a Unit Minority
>
> MI5 have been very clear in. their instructions as to what I should
> do. They have openly shouted at me the. word "suicide", and also from
the
> other abuse it is clear that. they want my existence terminated.
>
> This point is covered in more detail in a. previous article. The
following
> post describes the xenophobic nature of MI5s campaign against me.. They
> have refined their bigotry down to a unit minority, yet they make. use
of
> the discrimination. against the mentally ill which is a feature of
current
> British. society.
>
> Subject: Re: MI5 says. "Kill Yourself"
> Newsgroups:. uk.misc,uk.legal,uk.politics.misc,uk.media
> References:. <zlsiida.4248.3258FE24@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> <53eeev$cmg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Organization:. Toronto Free-Net
> Distribution:
>
> iain@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Iain L M Hotchkies) wrote:
>>Indeed. If you've ever had a 'conversation' with someone. suffering
>>from florid schizophrenia, you'll know how. difficult it can be to
>>'argue'. with them.
>
> I don't have florid symptoms. But. I'm in a difficult situation, because
> those
> people who don't know, aren't going to. believe, and those who do, they
> just go
> along with the crowd.. It's never a good idea to go against the grain,
and
> the
> grain here is defined by. interests in the establishment and the media.
> Even
> people who could say out loud what was happening won't, because then.
> there's a
> risk that they'll be seen as traitors. and ostracised.
>
> Usually this type of 'hidden abuse' is racial. and targetted at a racial
> minority within a country. You keep the minorities out of the. good
jobs,
> but
> you don't. admit discrimination exists. It happens everywhere, not just
in
> Britain. The persecution. that is going on now is in reality a refined
> form of
> racism. Instead of "nigger" it's "nutter", and. abusing the mentally ill
> is
> still socially acceptable today. In 50 years it might not. be, but today
> there
> isn't any. social or legal sanction against it.
>
> So really they've. refined racial harassment down to a minority of one.
> The
> words may be different,. but the methods are the same.
>
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