On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:51:46 -0800, ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On Mar 6, 12:26 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:54:20 -0800, ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>
>> > Another aspect of US militarism.
>>
>> > "By 1990, the value of the weapons, equipment, and factories devoted
>> > to the Department of Defense was 83% of the value of all plants and
>> > equipment in American manufacturing."
>>
>> > (http://www.lewrockwell.com/engelhardt/engelhardt312.html)
>>
>> > But of course, spending on gun cannot provide the butter.
>>
>> The above is misleading about, and I suspect that you are consequently
>> misled in your view of, American industry by regarding the "value" as
>> opposed to number of plants etc.
>>
>> The "value" of weapons etc. is always _grossly_ inflated by the
American
>> "defense industry" in connivance with the American Department of
Defense . . . .
>>
>> > Factories devoting to the development of weapons cannot produce
>> > consumer goods to satisfy Americans' needs.
>>
>> We had and have no problem producing consumer goods;
>
> No. The fact that many countries are holding tons of dollars point to
> the imbalance.. Americans want many things from aboard yet it is not
> producing things other countries wants to buy.
Well, we've seen several movements of production in the last half-century
or so similar to the Chinese before, connived at even though unfair in
practice and damaging to American working-people, the majority, because it
fit in with or at least could be represented as serving recognizable
American foreign-policy objectives:
The first such wave went to Japan, with IIRC Hong Kong and Taiwan
following quickly, and somewhat later South Korea.
And there's a similar situation with regard at least to pharmaceutical
production in Costa Rica.
But the major bleeding of American dollars abroad for the last several
decades is due, just like with regard to everyone else, to the incredible
and corruptly-connived-at price-gouging of the international petroleum
cartel, with both Texas "oil wealth" and the Saudis at the heart of it.
>> the movement of
>> American production intended for American use to China was to maximize
>> "profit" by exploiting cheap Chinese slave-labor-- try to get some
>> labor and labor, consumer and environmental safety laws passed and
>> enforced in China, if you think the Chinese are free-- and to mount an
>> unconventional offensive, an economic attack, on American
>> working-people, the majority of Americans, by the Chinese "Communist"
>> ("New Class") regime and the American (cor****ate) plutocracy, while the
>> American military and American counterintelligence are silenced by the
>> money involved.
>
> The above half-sentence is not clear. Please rephrase.
I don't see a half-sentence.
If you mean the "unconventional offensive" part, I consider America to be
being seriously whipped by three "unconventional offensives" being waged
against it at present, the Saudi War, the Mexican/Vatican War, and the
Chinese War:
The Saudi War, comprised of Saudi Arabia's "jihadist movement" on the one
hand and its price-gouged petrodollars laundered through the
"Saudi-industrial complex" used to buy it immunity from retaliation for
its actions on the other (see _House of Bush, House of Saud_, for one
glimpse of this);
The Mexican/Vatican War, a "population offensive" from Mexico, connived at
by the Mexican plutocracy for revanchist reasons and the Vatican to
increase its political strength in the US, as well as of course by the
American plutocracy (and especially that connected with the "service
industry") in the United States which greatly treasures the
all-but-slave-labor of illegal immigrants who can be de****ted if they get
"uppity" about pay, labor conditions, etc., the all-but-free use of which
labor drives and is intended by the American plutocracy to drive the value
of labor down in the US and thus injure American working-people, the
majority;
And finally the Chinese War, an economic offensive intended to damage
American industry and the American working-people, the majority, waged on
the one hand by a variety of unfair trade-practices ranging from the
relative cheapness of Chinese slave-labor (labor that can't organize and
campaign and strike for labor and labor, consumer and environmental safety
laws and enforcement is slave labor) to outright currency manipulation,
and the "profits" from such laundered through the "Chinese-industrial
complex" used to buy it immunity from retaliation for its actions on the
other (see Wal-Mart).
And the monies involved and the connivance of the American plutocracy and
its money-based political system and "two" political "parties" in these
wars against America silence the American military and American
intelligence with regard even to the existence of these wars, and still
more the damage they are causing.
These are huge and complex subjects, and hard to clearly and thoroughly
delineate by any one individual, and especially on the wing, as here, but
I hope I've made my viewpoint clear enough.
--
When was the last time you heard an American politician
use the word "plutocracy"?
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